From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 18 2003 - 18:35:17 GMT
> Matt:
> This resonates strongly with me, particulary the bit about "science
provides practical knowledge, it does not give us projects to do or tell us
what we live our lives for." Now, I know we disagree about disenchantment,
but for my own part I feel the disenchanting motions of the early Heidegger,
late Wittgenstein, Dewey, Derrida, and Rorty are good, while the
re-enchanting efforts of the later Heidegger not needed. I don't think
think we need a re-enchantment of philosophy. I think Rorty offers us a
perfectly good substitute, and that's the turn towards literature, taking
well read people like Harold Bloom as our moral and spiritual advisors.
>
> Matt
DM: I agree with Nietzsche that nihilism and therefore perhaps also
disenchantment is the negative reaction to the death of god, that beyond
this crater caused by a long fall that there is a more balanced assessment
of the worth of existence.
I personally feel that much of what we previously experienced as religious
is more legitimately a response to both our
constructed understanding of the cosmos as a whole and its 'achievement' and
to the open nature of its on-going process,
and we could look at these as SQ and DQ aspects of our human experience.
Both are deserving of awe. My hope would be that as our creative
understanding develops (and this very much has to go beyond what science can
provide) that a new sense
of cosmic calling may enable us to start living our political lives in a
more adult/complex fashion, i.e. with a much broader agenda, where we are
able to control the structures of our societies as thinking beings rather
than allowing the structures to control us as economic entities and human
functions rather than as human Beings. Heidegger's call is to get in contact
with
the full complexity of what it is to be a human being, a possibility quite
other than our current degraded forms of being.
regards
David M
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