RE: MD Language in the MOQ

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Thu Nov 27 2003 - 13:03:56 GMT

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    Hi Mark

    Mark said:
    The Homeric tradition was probably oral for a very
    long time before writing? In the oral tradition, many rhythms and
    patterns were
    artistically separate from the social function of the stories? These
    rhythms
    and patterns, viewed separately from the social function of the stories
    may have
    been highly reinforced in the application of writing? So, the new
    awareness
    of patterns of thought probably predate writing - writing may have
    accelerated
    something that had been evolving for a long time?

    Paul:
    This was my original position and I still think it's a good one. The
    alternative I'm exploring is that the emergence of the intellectual
    level was more sudden and with historical origins. I think both
    explanations are reasonable and evidence can be found to support either
    one. It's all speculation in the end; the most we can expect is to find
    the one we like best, as with anything.

    Mark said:
    ZMM indicated our Mythos to be dominated by certain aesthetic
    principles - truth, logic and systematic hierarchy. Those of us who can
    win
    that game do rather well out of it, but those who lose don't tend to get
    much
    economic reward or status perhaps?

    Paul:
    An example of social patterns undermining the development of new
    intellectual patterns?

    Mark said:
    I feel intellect has a broad pallet upon which to create than it's
    very narrow application today? I may be hopelessly misleading myself!!

    Paul:
    I hope not! I think the expansion of the "narrow application" of
    intellect was Pirsig's driving force in ZMM. I think he called it a
    "new, spiritual rationality."

    Cheers

    Paul

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