From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Mon Dec 08 2003 - 23:22:34 GMT
Hi Mark, Charles,
Mark said:
> What is the MOQ perspective on homosexuality?
...
> The MoQ deals with values and we may begin by stating that homosexuality is a
> response to value or Quality. At that point in human evolution when
> reproduction was essential for the survival of biological patterning,
> homosexuality may have been in conflict with that basic imperative. Which begs
> the question, what is in conflict?
...
> In Lila, Pirsig suggests that the female is the one who chooses which DNA
> moves on.
Mark, do you think this female choice is a social pattern or a biological
one? I think it is social, since biologically, a man can take whatever he
wants from a woman (most men are stronger than most women anyway).
> I have a sneaking suspicion that there is no such thing as homosexuality!
> That term is a social imposition; the imposition of a male dominated culture
> over the values of women! Men do not feel at all comfortable that females like
> homosexuals! It is a threat to them.
This is the sort of thing that SOMers do. I think what you are suggesting
is that homosexuality may be a social pattern rather than a biological one
and from the SOM perspective then doesn't exist since social patterns are
"just subjective." I'm sure you don't really think that social patterns
don't really exist, but you seem to be making the typical SOM error here.
> So, when you ask, 'Would you say a same-sex preference lies in the biological
> level, or the social level? Or perhaps some other level? i might be tempted
> to suggest that comment on biological preference is a social comment.
> Biologically, it's OK, ask a woman?!
Again, I disagree that female ownership of choice is a biological pattern.
I think that human sexuality is so complex that it is impossible to say to
what degree homosexuality is biologically based and to what degree it is a
social phenomenon. It's both.
Charles, in my opinion, since homosexuality can be practiced in such a way
that it does not threaten social control over dangerous biological patterns
it is therefore moral according to the MOQ. It would be immoral to enact
laws against homosexuality since doing so would limit freedom without
strengthening society, and the MOQ says, all things being equal, choose
freedom.
Thanks,
Steve
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