RE: MD Battle of Values

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec 21 2003 - 17:59:54 GMT

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    Erin:

    > Platt,
    > There are bits of this I may agree with but why
    > make it Judeo-Christian capitalism and not just
    > capitalism. Do you have a quote suggesting these two must go together.

    How about a quote on all U.S. currency--"In God We Trust."

    > Would you also like to change the title to God and the art of motorcyle of
    > maintence too to complete your theory?

    No, but it might be "Dynamic Quality and the Art of Motorcycle
    Maintenance.

    > So Pirsig sees value in Christianity
    > and capitalism and therefore wa-la its Judeo-Christian capitalism.

    No. Pirsig sees value in religious mysticism. Judeo-Christian capitalism
    comes from the acknowledgment of values created by God in the U.S.
    Declaration of Independence and in numerous government artifacts and
    practices. Our Pledge of Allegiance, for example, contains the phrase,
    "One nation, under God, with Liberty and Justice for all."
     
    > It may surprise you that Tom Robbins also said in
    > his recent novel a line about capitalism taken to extreme is anarchy and
    > socialism taken to extreme is totalitarianism. Hmmm I know this will upset
    > you but I see similarities between what you are saying and what Robbins
    > said (and Pirsig says too of course). There was a whole thread about
    > overdoing the dynamic before and it seemed like it was strongly agreed that
    > you can overdo it. Let me ask you this first do you think that you can take
    > capitalism too far? If its really about a balance of DQ and SQ it seems
    > like both systems could have negative results if they are taken to extreme
    > and neither guarantees a balance of DQ and SQ.

    Anything taken to an extreme, except in defense of liberty, is
    questionable.
     
    > You want quotes about the morality of this war on terrorism
    > but thats another generalization that I don't really like.
    > So every country Bush now decides to invade is lumped under
    > a single moral war. The threat of Osama is not
    > exactly like the threat of Saddam and the threat of
    > Saddam is not like (insert the next country Bush invades).
     
    It is moral for a country that supports the intellectual level to invade
    any country that supports a lower level and disallows such basic
    individual freedoms as freedom of speech, of religion, trial by jury, etc.
    to its citizens Thus, The U.S. has a moral right to invade Cuba, for
    example, but that doesn't mean it would be wise to do so since they do not
    pose a threat. We may find it necessary, however, to invade North Korea
    due to their belligerency and capacity to do great harm to their
    neighbors.

    Platt

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