From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Jan 12 2004 - 20:06:32 GMT
Scott said:
Yes, the static patterns manifest DQ, but my objection is that Pirsig takes
this in a nominalistic way, as evidenced by his considering DQ as
"pre-intellectual", and in general seeing the intellect as covering up DQ.
DM: I guess my view, to offer an alternative, is that DQ clearly underlies
all SQ so one approach to DQ is to
get away from all differentiation/intellect. However, another way pushes
intellect as far as it can go, intellect clearly
covers up the existence of DQ/Becoming as argues by Heidegger/Bhaskar in the
form of SOM, however there is the
possibility of pushing intellect out beyond SOM, where, in a way, as
Heidegger says 'thinking breaks' and you arrive
back at DQ, and in an intellectually more profound way having passed through
the limitations of SOM.
regards
David M
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Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:07 AM
Subject: MD Re: Rorty (Big Self & small self)
Scott,
Thanks for the paragraph on Barfield and the references. I'll definitely
get round to read "Saving the Appearances" at some point.
Ant said previously:
It maybe not be obvious in Pirsig's work but I don't think he overlooks that
nirvana = samsara because the bottom line, in the MOQ, is that all static
patterns are essentially manifestations of Dynamic Quality. I have mentioned
this in previous posts and also briefly allude to this in Section 5.5. of my
PhD textbook where I discuss the relationship between Nagarjuna and Pirsig.
Scott said:
Yes, the static patterns manifest DQ, but my objection is that Pirsig takes
this in a nominalistic way, as evidenced by his considering DQ as
"pre-intellectual", and in general seeing the intellect as covering up DQ.
Ant:
I've been given the above objection some thought. However, I don't
understand what you mean exactly by "the intellect as covering up DQ". If
you could phrase this in a different way and/or expand on it that will
enable me to give you a suitable response.
Best wishes,
Anthony.
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