From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Thu Feb 19 2004 - 15:49:59 GMT
Hi Platt,
Poot:
> > Well, before I start, in your 'opinion' which is the best religion?? Which
> > represents the epitomy of human civilisation>? I'm sure you know the
> > answer....why don't you 'enlighten' us?
Platt:
> What makes you think I know which is the best religion? How would the
> best religion be determined? What criteria would you use?
Steve:
Isn't this the sort of ranking you want to apply to music? Is there a reason
why it would not work for religion while it does work in the cases of music,
art, scientists, etc? How is religion different?
Poot:
> > I said : Yes. I consider peoples fanatical beliefs in the dogmatic
> > traditions of religion, be it christianity, islam, or what not to be
> > silly.
> > I
> > consider concepts such as 'creationism' to be idiotic.
> >
> > [Platt] said : I'm surprised that you support the narrow-minded intolerance
> > shown by DMB
> > towards religious beliefs.
>
> > I say: Well... For one, I am not being intolerant. There is a reason I
> > added fanatic and dogmatic to the equation. I did not say, nor insinuate
> > that all practicing, or non-practicing christians/catholics are stupid
> > idiots. It is important to understand that when you take religion, and add
> > fanaticism .... it effectively becomes a farce of the original meaning. I
> > also did not say that if you believe in a religion, I think you are a fool.
> > Far from it.
Platt:
> But you did say that if one believes in creationism, a religious belief,
> that he is an idiot. Hardly an expression of tolerance and inclusiveness.
Steve:
I can't tell if you're playing devil's advocate or what. Your project has
always been to say that some things are better than others. Aren't some
beliefs better than others?
Poot:
> > I say: Now, if you read this, with your eyes wide open, then it is easy to
> > see that I do not reject religions for what they are, and thus , you can
> > also assume that I do not reject the views of people who believe in
> > religion themselves.
>
> It seems you reject the religious view of creationism. In fact, you seem
> to be dogmatic about it by calling creationism "silly" and "idiotic."
> What's the difference between your dogmatism and fanaticism concerning
> this aspect of religious belief and the dogmatism/fanaticism those who
> believe?
>
> To label Christians as "idiots" because they doubt the Darwin story of
> evolution appears to me to demonize a large segment of the population. I'm
> surprised by your insensitivity. I'm sure you wouldn't like to have your
> concepts called "idiotic."
Steve:
Platt, do you ascribe to a particluar set of religious beliefs?
What makes a belief "religious"?
Do you believe in Biblical creation?
Thanks,
Steve
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