From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Wed Mar 17 2004 - 10:35:34 GMT
In essence, 'liberal' in the context of US politics is equivalent to 'socialist' in EU politics.
Sam
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From: "Johannes Volmert" <jvolmert@student.uni-kassel.de>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:53 PM
Subject: MD Definition of 'liberal'
> Hi MoQers,
>
> this question is directed more to the American fellows on this platform.
> What I don't really understand concerning American culture in general
> and this election specifically is the use of the concept of 'liberal'.
> To make sure my miscomprehension does not arise from basical
> misunderstanding of the word 'liberal' , I'd looked it up in my foreign
> words dictionary. It says under: 1.(I read this as: most important
> meaning) 'to impose as less as possible restrictions to the individual
> [person]' ... and farther down 'liberalize' : 'to free from [all]
> restrictions', which is what Liberals in Germany - (5-7% support) -
> want; precisely: no government involvement into market/economy.
> The reason to dwell on that is, that I consider it to be as one of
> Pirsigs messages in his two books - as pronounced by most philosophers
> by the way - that an individual should aim at making independant
> choices in all his doings; taking responsibility for what he does. To do
> so he should get rid of - or better - should carefully review his
> opinions to sort out those, that basically stick to the social and not
> the intellectual level.
> Furthermore, Pirsig pleads for a free market in contrast to a guided
> marked. Note that this also fits the definition of what I quoted above
> from my dictonary.
>
> What I do not understand - and I follow the American press quite
> intensively during the last weeks - why some MOQ-discussers on this
> platform oppose so fervently all people that call themselves 'liberal'!
> This stand does not seem to fit to basical 'Pirsig-standards' IMO.
> Maybe, Platt, you could explain that to me as you seem to oppose very
> much American 'liberals'.
>
> Regards, JoVo
>
>
>
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