Re: MD secular humanism and dynamic quality

From: Platt Holden (
Date: Thu Mar 25 2004 - 15:07:06 GMT

  • Next message: Leland Jory: "Re: MD secular humanism and dynamic quality"

    Hi Matt K, Sam, Leland:

    Matt K:
    > To put it another way, in line with my response from before, I take secular
    > humanism to be the "offical" "ideology" of liberal democracy.

    I'm jumping in here like Leland but for a different reason. If secular
    humanism is the 'official' ideology of liberal democracy, then run for
    your life. The goals of secular humanism are described in detail in the
    'official' Humanist Manifesto which advocates, among other hair-raising
    Utopian schemes, the following:

    "The humanists are firmly convinced that the existing acquisitive and
    profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a
    radical change in methods, controls and motives must be instituted. A
    socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end
    that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible. The goal
    of humanism is a free and universal society in which people voluntarily
    and intelligently cooperate for the common good. Humanists demand a shared
    life in a shared world."

    To which I reply, "Here come the Stalinists," and Pirsig's warns,
    "The ideal of a harmonious society in which everyone without coercion
    cooperates happily with everyone else for the mutual good of all is a
    devastating fiction." (Lila-24)

    'Devastating.' When the subject of humanism comes up, keep Pirsig's word
    word in mind.


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