From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Apr 20 2004 - 18:52:20 BST
Hi Mark & Joe
Have moved off Individual thread because I think
you have changed subject a bit. I would like to talk
about the same things with an example/description.
I liked what was being said. I wonder how does consciousness
relate to DQ? Here is my example/description:
A game of football/soccer is taking place. It is a corner kick. I am a
centre
forward trying to score. The corner kick is taken. The ball flies throught
the air
and will reach about head height a few metres away from me. I see the ball
coming
towards the goal. I am conscious of all these patterns that I can observe.
The type
of kick of the ball from the corner of the pitch, the shape of the curve the
ball is
taking, I can anticipate its flight because of my knowledge of these
patterns,
other players are moving towards the ball, I can anticipate the patterns of
their movements
from my experience, the defenders want to head the ball away from goal,
their project and values are
different from mine, therefore we are in conflict, the situation is dynamic,
no one can calculate
exactly what is going to happen, the crowd roar as I approach the ball, they
might distract me
or they might distract the defenders, who is more experienced in these
patterns, me or the
defenders? who will anticipate better? Will the referee spot the offside? I
stay aware of all the patterns around me, I can jump now and I might just
get to the ball before the defender but I am not 100% sure, I can see
another
forward just behind me, I realise he is unmarked by a defender, if I jump
now I will not head
the ball but I will stop the defender getting a good jump towards it. What
do I do? Jump now
and block the defender giving the other striker an unmarked chance to header
for goal or
jump a bit later and try to score myself? This is a dynamic situation, I can
choose either way,
the outcome of the complex of patterns is open because of this choice and
additional contingent
rather than this specific purposeful factor -i.e. my choice. I decide to
jump early, block the defender and my team mate
scores. Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal! Such is a sweetly chosen spot from
the open possibilities
that lie in a complex of patterns. What does this say about human
consciousness? The purpose of human
consciousness, the reason it exists, is to respond to DQ, to recognise
openness and chose which outcome
is most highly valued. Sometimes chosing well, sometimes badly: hence the
good and evil of this world.
Hense the glory of the human eye struture and the problems of cancer I would
say, because as Mark suggests
the reality of DQ operating in this open cosmos is to explain how the
achievement of this cosmos is possible.
If there is DQ operating in other open/dynamic contexts the possibility that
they are in some sense conscious
is well worth considering.
Any thoughts/responses?
regards
David M
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