Re: MD "biological" crime

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu May 20 2004 - 19:27:19 BST

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    Hi Alicia

    Everything is natural or does not exist, the concept
    of homosexuality is an intellectual one of course,
    at the biological level there are only, perhaps, homosexual
    acts we might like to say, and these occur very naturally with all kinds of
    animals
    I am told.

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Alicia Dvorak" <advorak@risd.edu>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:51 AM
    Subject: Re: MD "biological" crime

    >
    > On May 19, 2004, at 8:36 PM, Matt poot wrote:
    > > I think this discussion has a lot to do with gender. knowing that
    > > gender and sex are different, it is more easy to recognize that there
    > > are some people who seem to have a different gender, than that which
    > > would be more popularly "natural" (heterosexuality).
    >
    > AD: i don't think that hetero/homo sexuality has to do with gender.
    > gender is a social construct and though it may determine is another
    > person is attracted to you, it doesn't determine one's own sexual
    > preference. As an example, transgendered people can be either straight
    > or gay.
    >
    > > So the question to me , is whether this is the result of "natural"
    > > occurences, meaning that it is not due to the parenting, or social
    > > factors, but more to the biological (genetic) and intellectual..
    >
    > AD: i agree that this is the question, but either way, i think it has
    > to do with sex/sexuality and not gender. The nature versus nurture
    > debate surrounding homosexuality is ongoing in the world, and,
    > honestly, i don't know that we can answer it here. Even if we can agree
    > on the parameters of the biological level, i don't see how we could
    > place homosexuality for certain in either (bio or social).
    >
    > any other thoughts on gender anyone?
    >
    > Alicia
    >
    >
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