RE: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: storeyd (storeyd@bc.edu)
Date: Sat May 29 2004 - 16:15:31 BST

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    Hey all,

    David M wrote:
    >I think the first big problem is that we seem to value
    >material possessions over cultural and intellectual ones.

    Yes, but I would go further and say that the even bigger problem is valueing
    possession, period. material craving is an effect of and possibilized by
    biological desire, which exerts a downward pull on intellectual frution, which
    itself exerts a downward pull on any sort of existential/spiritual vertical
    movement, any dancing with the sublime. It's not that we don't have
    intellectuality in our culture; quite the opposite, we have a dangerous
    surplus. the problem is that that great cognitive advance is highjacked by
    the lower levels--and what do we get? corporate scandals, politics governed
    by special interests, environmental negligence, a blatant disregard for social
    welfare programs, and not too mention a crisis in marital, familial, and
    invididual psychic coherence. all of this is bound up with grasping, whatever
    we want to call it: greed, pride, possession. greed is the lowest, because
    its pure materiality; its the individual level doing the work of the inorganic
    level, which is almost the ugliest moral regression. its the least human.
    But my point is that the root of all these different forms of evolutionary
    regression is possession per se, that is, grasping itself, which is always and
    can only be the work of the ego-I, at the intellectual level...that is why the
    i-level is the heaviest double edge sword of the bunch, because it has all the
    levels at its disposal, AND IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WELL-BEING OF ALL THE
    LEVELS BELOW IT. that is the trouble with capitalism: it only focuses on the
    INDIVIDUAL component of its considerable sociopolitical advances (bills of
    rights, private property, free enterprise, etc.), and, in practice, neglects
    the COLLECTIVE responsibilites that accompany those advances. in the
    evolutionary spiral, there is no free lunch, anywhere, ever. in fact, that
    higher you go up the totem, the higher the level, the greater freedom, but the
    greater responsibility. I think a problem with capitalism is that its soft
    and easy, it enables moral neglect; its like the serpent in the garden. It
    coos to the senses...but this is nothing new...it's all samsara no matter
    which way you slice it. the real deal is that nothing CAN ever truly be
    possessed, not a person, not a bauble, not the tiniest grain of sand. the
    picture is always, always more than the frame. So we could say that
    capitalism induces one of the basest and grossest cultural instantiations of
    this possessing/grasping drive, but that that drive itself is what causes ALL
    of the m, cultural, political, and psychic strife in the universe, and all of
    these are moral hemorrages
    Best,
    -Dave
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