Re: MD immoral irony?????

From: Horse (horse@darkstar.uk.net)
Date: Tue Jun 29 2004 - 00:28:44 BST

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    Hi Mark

    On 28 Jun 2004 at 11:51, Mark Steven Heyman wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > According to the MOQ, does math exist at the bio level? I suggest
    > that math came about when someone put an apple on a table and said
    > "This represents ONEness. Then placed another apple on the table and
    > said "This is TWOness." Then a peach and an orange were placed
    > together on the table, and someone said "These also represent
    > TWOness; TWOness is what these have in common with these", pointing
    > to the pair of apples. Etc...
    >
    > I suggest "race" comes about in the same way. A person takes a
    > particular set of human alleles together and says "This represents an
    > African." A different set is pointed out, and called "Caucasian." A
    > third set represents an "Aborigine."

    And all of these sets are intellectual patterns of value not biological patterns of value.

    >
    > I think these distinctions are abitrary human distinctions that have
    > no meaning at the bio level, just as math has no meaning there.
    > These are human conventions. Just imagine the bio level BEFORE the
    > human social level was laid upon it. Did race exist then?

    I don't think it did

    >
    > Anyway, why doesn't someone just email Pirsig and ask him?

    'Cos it's more fun trying to figure it out for ourselves - i.e. philosophising.

    Horse

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