RE: MF what's art ; what's technology ?

From: Philip Wigg (philip_wigg@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jan 17 2000 - 14:04:43 GMT


Hi Squad,

>From Marko,

>I must say something about a criticism received about this month's thread.
>It's a must for me, as I am the one who suggested it.
>
>The thread is considered by someone a ZAMM question, not very inherent MOQ.
>But IMO, if we consider MOQ a complete philosophy, we must be able to look
>at everything through MOQ glasses, and also we must surpass the ZAMM
>vision.
>
>Phil, for example.
>"I think this is a ZAMM question. Let's not forget that you can divide
>dynamic quality up however you like and I think the classic/romantic split
>explains this dilema much better than the Lila split does. [.... ] I'm
>only
>22, so it's pure conjecture, but I believe this problem was far worse in
>the 1960's when technology really was ugly. Now we have nice technology
>that
>looks nice and a lot fewer people are scared by it."

I appreciate what Marko is saying, and I'd like to add a little to my post.
I do believe that you can answer this question using the MOQ, because as
Marko says, it is a complete metaphysical system, but I'd also like to
justify my using ZAMM to answer the question.

Firstly I think a work of art or technology is primarily a inorganic pattern
of values. It's pretty hard to deny really. Also they both carry an
intellectual pattern of values. A technician/scientist is more likely to
appreciate the intellectual ideas behind a piece of technology and an artist
would be more likely to comprehend the intellectual ideas behind a painting
but everybody will be able to appreciate some intellectual value in both.

However, the question, 'is art divorced from technology' is neither a piece
of technology or a work of art - it's a question. It's purely in the domain
of intellectual quality, and in this domain I can use any division I want
to. I can use the analytical 'knife' that Pirsig refers to. I don't (In fact
it's impossible to) go outside of the MOQ when I use the classic/romantic
split to answer an intellectual question because I'm just sitting in the
domain of intellectual quality - there's no contradiction between MOQ and
the classic/romantic split. I still believe that the problem isn't actually
a divorce between art and technology, it's a division in the minds of the
people who create art or technology, and this division is best described by
the classic/romantic split which is one of the main themes of ZAMM.
I'm in a bit of a hurry so I hope this makes sense.. :-)

Thanks,
Phil.

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