Hi again
Topics are in, let the voting begin. Like last month, I won't make your votes public
until all are in and the topic for June is clear.
Here are the topics:
1) Richard
At the end of Lila Pirsig leaves us with this "summation":
"Good is a noun. That was it. That was what Phaedrus had been looking for.
That was the homer, over the fence, that ended the ball game. Good as a
noun rather than an adjective is all the Metaphysics of Quality is about....
....if you had to reduce the whole Metaphysics of Quality to a single
sentance, that would be it."
A bold claim. But without having read the rest of the book (and maybe even
having read it) that sentance is (to say the least) cryptic. I think of a
snipet from ZMM--- "....when the statement is isolated and itself subject to
scrutiny it becomes patently ridiculous."
Anybody care to explore exactly what "Good is a noun" means and whether it
really captures the entire MoQ?
2) Marco
"Trying to create a perfect metaphysics is like trying to create a perfect
chess strategy, one that will win every time. You can't do it. " (Lila ch.9)
This means that also the MOQ is not perfect. Did you find any faults? Could
you suggest corrections?
3) Andreas
' The real motorcycle we have to work on is a cycle called 'The Lilasquad'.
How do the individual visions of each member correlate with the movement of
the LS towards the Good ?
possibly resulting in:
Is there a consens vision, to be seen as an tolerated, for many people
habitable frame, in Lila Squad's quest for the Good ?
4) Horse
Of all the levels, the one that seems to create the most confusion or appear most obscure is
the intellectual level. What exactly is it? What are its values? What are its goals? How does
it manifest itself? Why should intellectual level values prevail over social level values? Are
intelligence and intellectual value the same thing.
In short, define the intellectual level.
5) Johannes (originally Ken's)
"Good is a noun. Good as a noun rather than an adjective is all the
MoQ is about ... if you had to reduce the whole MoQ to a single
sentence, that would be it." What did Pirsig mean by this statement?
6) Miv
'So how do I turn this stove on, then?' she asked the captain.
'ill light it for you,' he said.
'Why don't you teach me?' said Lila?
'It takes too long' the captain said. (Lila ch. 14 - Corgi ed. p. 207)
I propose to dicuss in depth the metaphore of the Hot Stove, What does it
reveal?
I suspect RPs technical analyses of the stove on the boat, is highly
instructive and closely related to the hot stove earlier on. There is much
more then a simple metaphore here.
If other people feel the same, lets explore the leads together...
7) Geoff
"And what is good, Phaedrus,
And what is not good-
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?"
It is Plato's dialogue called THE PHAEDRUS. How would you answer the
question it asks?
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