RE: MF Intellectual level

From: Andreas Deppner (atomic-s@muenster.de)
Date: Tue Jun 06 2000 - 19:07:51 BST


Hello Simon and welcome,

You write:

Pirsig says in SODV, however, that the intellectual level "contains such
static intellectual patterns as theology, science, philosophy, mathematics."
all of which have been around for thousands of years. Therefore, the
intellectual level has been in existence for thousands of years, sharing
dominance with the social level, much as it does today.
Where then, did Pirsig create his date of the early 20th century for the
intellectual level from?

Intellectual static patterns as theology (?), science, philosophy,
mathematics exist for thousands of years. Right.

When did these patterns develop enough strength to control the social level
?

- In the 20th century.

Take Good care,

Andreas

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-moq_focus@venus.co.uk [mailto:owner-moq_focus@venus.co.uk] On
Behalf Of Simon K
Sent: Montag, 5. Juni 2000 12:42
To: moq_focus@moq.org
Subject: Re: MF Intellectual level

Hi,

This is my first time posting to this list, and I'd just like to express
some reservations about the intellectual level and its existence separate to
the social level.

Pirsig says that when in conflict, the intellectual level will always
dominate the social level. And he also says that the intellectual level came
into dominance after WW1. That appears sensible, as millions were prepared
to fight in WW1, yet by 1933 the Oxford Union voted in favour of "This House
would not fight for King and Country." However, there are still many people
who would be jingoistic and fight for their country, regardless of what they
were fighting against. Which, to me, suggests that the intellectual level
only has partial dominance.
Simon

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