Hi Jonathan
You wrote:
> Magnus I must disagree somewhat. If you and I share a Black Forest Gateaux
> (your favourite if I remember correctly), I agree that each of us might
> experience something different, but I assume we might also agree on certain
> aspects. You and I can agree that we are eating the same cake, and that it
> tastes pretty good (or not). The agreed patterns OBJECTIFY the episode as a
> SHARED experience. I don't see how the world can function without such
> sharing.
Yes, of course we're eating the same cake and I guess it tastes quite good,
although I'm not sure what a Black Forest Gateaux is. I agree that it sounds
very peculiar but according to the MoQ, each bite of that cake is created by
the quality event that experiences it. You and I, the subjects, are also re-
created by those same quality events. It's the static patterns that you, I
and the cake are made of that enables us to share the "same, same, but
different" experience.
> You go on to say that "quality events are unique", a statement that has no
> real meaning. I don't see how the word UNIQUE can have any meaning except by
> reference to subject-object.
There is a reference to subject-object since every quality event produces
a subject-object pair, but it is the quality event that is the primary reality,
not the subject-object pair.
> > A subject - object pair is created by each quality event.
>
> I maintain that reality can be described in terms of infinite overlapping
> subject-object patterns.
It can be, but according to the MoQ, reality is better described using
quality events as the starting point, not subjects and objects.
> My only problem is your one-to-one mapping between "event" and subject-object
> pattern.
But that's one of the most basic assumptions of the MoQ, that a subject-object
pair is created by each quality event.
> This seems to be the subject-object view of a reality made of a
> number of discreet, absolute events. I think that reality is a continuum that
> can be carved up in any number of different ways. The events that you define
> as object + subject are a consequence of the carving up.
But the MoQ says it's the other way around. The events are primary, discreet
and unique, the rest is secondary.
Magnus
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