Hello everyone,
Bo wrote:
>He also suggested that any "impulse" that surfaces at the
>intellectual end has to start at the inorganic level (any idea has to
>have a neurological parallell [Re. Spinoza's psycho-physical
>parallelisms!]) But at the inorganic level Tor postulates an initial
>quantum (random) event as the "prime mover"...even if the passage
>through the other levels are lesser 'quality events' too.
>
>Jaap accepted this and launched into some highly interesting
>considerations how
I want to make clear I do nor accept an "initial quantum (random) event" as
the prime mover. That way, as I said before, causation sneaks into MOQ
again. As I wrote I see more in a DQ flowing downward through the levels
creating a vertical chain of events but working only creative ;) at the
highest (active) level.
Second there is a sideway apearing throughout the discussion: Is MOQ
rejecting SOM or not ? Some people say at does but others reject that. Last
week I spent some spare time rereading a major part of Lila. Pirsig says
that there are more metaphysical realities (just as there are more (social)
cultures, more (biological) species and maybe more (anorganic) "worlds"). I
conclude the SOM has no place in the MOQ (although MOQ can study SOM but SOM
can not study MOQ), but according to MOQ SOM is a equivalent metaphysic
reality wich is seen by "MOQ-believers" as a lower step in the intellectual
evolution. I would like to compare it with the biological level. From one
brance of evolution there are more species living at the same time; when due
to a evolutionairy event one specie is succeeded by one other you can not
say that the members of the old specie are a kind of special case whitin the
new specie -they are an other specie !- but neither can you say that the new
specie rejects the old one. You can only say the new specie is better
adjusted but as long both species can survive they are equivalent; they are
both succesfull.
greetings,
Jaap
P.S. Could you tell me where I can read about the SOLAQI idea ? Probably
it's somewhere in the archive.
MOQ.org - http://www.moq.org
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