RE: MF CALL FOR VOTES

From: Andreas Deppner (atomic-s@muenster.de)
Date: Fri Dec 31 1999 - 09:29:23 GMT


A Good Day and a Good Year to all of You,

I vote for Nr. 6.

Thank You,
                            Andreas Deppner
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-moq_focus@venus.co.uk [mailto:owner-moq_focus@venus.co.uk]On
Behalf Of Horse
  Sent: Donnerstag, 30. Dezember 1999 22:45
  To: moq_focus@moq.org
  Subject: MF CALL FOR VOTES

  Sorry for the delay folks, but I've been off with family stuff and got
back later than I'd anticipated.
  As this is the case and the votes need to be out for 2 days I'll announce
the new subject late on the 1st of the New Year.
  Send you votes in by about midnight GMT of the 1st Jan and assuming the
world doesn't end at midnight on the 31st or every computer in the world (or
more to the point the one I collect my mail from!!!) hasn't melted I'll post
shortly after.

  Usual voting protocol:

  1) Please use the same subject line as this post when you submit your
vote.

  2) Please vote for only one of the topics listed below.

  #1 Todd (Gem7th@aol.com)
  A case study of the "giant" known to us as Las Vegas. Regarding the nature
  of this giants "devouring nature". Focusing on (but not limited to) the
  geography and energetic needs of this city (giant). Comparative thoughts
of
  various "giants/cities" will be allowed in order to enrich our case study
of
  Las Vegas.

  #2 Ben Schafer
  The fuzzy role of emotion in individual and cultural communication
examined
  within the Metaphysics of Quality.

  #3 Diana
  Aside from ZMM and LILA, which other books would you recommend to members
of MOQ.org?

  #4 Rocky Hayes
  Let's discuss the role that sex plays in Lila.

  Is it just a metaphor through which Pirsig pricks our 'ethical' skin, or
  something more?
  Is the reader to conclude that Lila is a slut/loose woman?
  What does Rigel see in Lila's sexuality that causes him to react so
  negatively to Phadreus' claim that Lila has quality?
  Why is Lila willing to have intercourse with the Captain/Author/Phadreus?
  (what's the draw/appeal to him.)
  What are we to conclude about the special high quality sexual experience
  Lila gives Phadreus - one that she suspects he is actually unaware of? Is
he
  unaware of it?
  How does the physiological experience of an orgasm (arguably an experience
  we share across the boundary of dozens of species) fit into the MOQ, or
does
  that experience fall outside of the MOQ? Is it not transcendental?

  #5 David Buchanan
  Let's discuss the book's conclusion.
  Let's look at the meaning of those final scenes.
  Rigel decides to take care of Lila.
  The Captain disposes of the doll in a ritual.
  Then he's prepared to head out on the Ocean and he's feeling free..." This
divorce of art from technology is completely unnatural. It's just
  that it's gone on so long you have to be an archeologist to find out where
  the two separated. Rotisserie assembly is actually a long-lost branch of
sculpture,
  so divorced from its roots by centuries of intellectual wrong turns that
  just to associate the two sounds ludicrous."
  ZAMM, chapter 14.

  Seen in the light of MOQ, why are art and technology divorced? What is
their
  role today? Is this divorce definitive?

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