Re: MF Discussion topic for March 2003

From: Wim Nusselder (
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 18:47:57 GMT

  • Next message: David Buchanan: "MF Re: March 2004 - Metaphysics and the mystical reality."

    Dear MF participants,

    "Does Pirsig's work help us to sort out the distinctions between metaphysics
    and the mystical reality?"

    Superficially: yes. Reality is (valued) experience. Metaphysics is names
    about reality.

    When you go deeper into it things become complicated however: According to
    Pirsig writing a metaphysics is a degenerate activity when seen from the
    perspective of mystical experience. Seen from within the MoQ (which
    distinguishes 4 levels of static quality plus Dynamic Quality) a metaphysics
    (including the MoQ...) is on the highest level of static quality (the
    intellectual level) and mystical experience points towards Dynamic Quality.
    It still helps me to sort out things, but the picture becomes very
    complicated and I'm not sure it will help anybody else, who is not very well
    versed in MoQish to sort out the distinctions between metaphysics and 'the
    mystical reality'.

    With friendly greetings,


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