Date: Thu Apr 08 2004 - 01:59:04 BST
In case it helps this is how I think about the relationship
between quality and conceptual thought/metaphysics.
Mark 8-4-04: Hello David M,
dmb asks: "Does Pirsig's work help us sort out the distinctions between
metaphysics and the mystical reality?"
From your response, is it appropriate to interpret what you are saying as
Quality is mystical reality.
Experience is of Quality, that is mystical reality.
Quality or mystical reality is experienced as DQ/SQ - a process of being and
If we replace 'being and becoming' with 'Evolution,' then:
Quality or mystical reality is experienced in Static patterns of conceptual
thought as an evolutionary relationship with DQ.
The only move left to make is to introduce 'coherence' from The edge of Chaos
and you've come close to repeating what is said in that essay.
This is the totality/undivided. There is something irreducibly
mystical/unlimited/transcendent/open about experience.
It pours through us, is is ungraspable as a whole as Wittgenstein
says. However, the SQ, the patterns are graspable to sound extent,
we can use concepts to grasp more and more of it,
Mark 8-4-04: Or coherence is evolving?
although fallibly, although never finally and totally because it always
some degree, or in part, transcendent.
Mark 8-4-04: But ever more coherent?
Like yin and yang, you can move towards yin but never completely eliminate
Mark 8-4-04: 'Move towards' means evolve? If so, then yin and yang share an
evolving relationship? What is it about this relationship that is evolving?
Coherence i wonder?
Mark 8-4-04: Hope i have been.
All the best,
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