Re: MF Topic August 2004 - Intellectual Property

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sat Aug 14 2004 - 19:36:48 BST

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    Hi Japp, Rick, and all,

    On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:51, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 02:18:06 -0400 Valence wrote:
    : Hello Pi, David M., and the other 8 people who voted for this topic
    : but haven't said a word yet:

    msh says:
    Sorry Rick. I've been over in the MD yard, playing kick the can with
    a bunch of rowdy tribalist-theists. It's hot dusty work.

    japp:
    I think that things like copyrights and patents are about politics
    and money, and thus can be found at the social level. Also I see that
    the "hacker world" has a tremendous energy on both social and
    intellectual levels, I think this can be related to DQ very easily.

    msh says:
    I agree completely. I notice that many in this thread are pushing
    the argument that it's necessary to protect "intellectual property"
    because we'll lose the input of all the "great thinkers" if we don't
    allow them to profit from the dissemination of their ideas or
    products.

    This is of course nonsense. The only "great thinkers" you'll lose
    are those wo are more interested in making money than in original
    thought and creativity, which goes a long way to separating the
    "great" from the "thinkers" as part of their self-description, IMO.

    For starters, compare Salk's refusal to patent his polio vaccine with
    today's pharm companies and their near-genocidal insistence on
    enforcing patents for AIDS drugs, even in foreign countries, where
    they try to prevent development of far less expensive generic
    equivalents.

    Years ago, at a college tavern, I got into it with a gorgeous pre-med
    student who insisted that the high salaries commanded by doctors were
    necessary to insure excellent medical care. She said, "What do you
    think would happen if doctors were limited in the amount of money
    they could earn in their practice?" I thought long and hard before
    answering, as this was a party, and she was beautiful, and it was
    approaching closing time. But my own sense of self-righteousness got
    the better of me and I said "You'd have doctors who chose their
    professions because they wanted to make a moral contribution to
    humanity, which is to say for the right reason." Anyway, she left
    with the bartender.

    There's an analogy here somewhere, but I'm too tired to flesh it out.

    Best to all,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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