Re: MF Discussion Topic for February 2005

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue Feb 22 2005 - 12:14:15 GMT

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    Hi people,

    I'm happy to run with this:

    > "In the MOQ empirical experience begins with Quality which generates
    > intellectual patterns. One of these intellectual patterns is named
    > 'senses,'
    > but this pattern is derived from the study of anatomy and is not primary
    > in
    > the actual empirical process."

    So 'feelings' and the biological level etc are all intellectual level
    abstractions from the primary stuff of value, from which arise the patterns,
    the ten thousand things etc. Let's accept that when Pirsig says 'The MoQ
    uses [the term "sentient experience"] literally' he is not referring to what
    we would normally consider our senses but something more primary (and which
    must therefore be 'analogous' to the biological senses/ feeling, along the
    lines that Mark describes). As Glenn put it: "When Pirsig says that we
    access the Absolute through literal sentient experience, he means we are
    doing so without the assistance of biology".

    Sam

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