LS Re: The four levels


Bodvar Skutvik (skutvik@online.no)
Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:01:19 +0100


First: My response to Lars Marius was placed in the "Four Level"
thread: I should have been in the "Artificial Intelligence"
one.

Diana wrote:
 
> I'm still not clear about Bodvar's objections to this. (Bo are you listening?)
> We can only actually experience the biological value of wearing a coat (ie the warmth)
> biologically. But from an intellectual standpoint we can still see that it's there.

I have had a busy period lately, so I am a little behind, but if
the objections are my assertion that only one value plane can be in
focus at a time, and the one about seen from within each value
level fills the universe, I still uphold those (it is really the same
thing said differently).

Applied to the garment issue: When a person dresses to comply
with fashion, the suit or coat or whatever is regarded as artifacts
to enhance the wearer's social status, but if the person is dying
from cold the clothing enhances his/her biological survival. What
they are in themselves besides Inorganic patterns (the shoe's animal
hide is Inorganic in this context) is Intellectual deliberations.

Maggie has a point about Intellect's interference. One's REASONING
may make one decide to give a damn about fashion and wear rags
instead (perhaps starting a new fashion trend). There is however a
point I must stress: the focus shifts extremely quickly. On your way
from the wardrobe locker to the mirror you may change from social
awareness to intellectual reasoning many times. Even the
freezing person may change to Social Value and give away
the lifesaving coat to a friend.

These quick shifts may make it look like the value levels are merging,
but they are discrete. On your way from the proverbial locker you may
step on a tack and in a flash are the intellectual deliberations
and social urges gone, simple organic pain overwhelms you for a
moment.

The "evaluation" bit was good.

Bo
 

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