LS Re: The Noumenon of Quality


Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Sun, 2 Nov 1997 18:58:49 +0100


Martin Striz wrote:

...

> But instead of stopping here
> and letting the whole of this essay turn into one pessimistic scorn at
> reality, I will advance a positive, rational, and practical
> ontological
> framework for reality.
>
> (To be completed.)
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> I'm ready for the lashing. :-)
>
> Martin
>
Martin,

I like your work! You are working an area which will be indispensible
for TLS when we have to really get serious and justify the MoQ in true
disputation and refutation with the 'intellectual' SOM-landers.

At this point, I encourage you to proceed and show us the optimistic
epilogue. I salivate at the thought of more additive MoQ vibrations
from a fresh TLS-mate.

I am editing your work to make the 'problems' with each of the four ISMs
more pronounced. I think that will make reading and evaluating it
easier. I should have it ready early next week. I did not change your
content, I just labeled the problems specifically - fixed some spelling
- and added some bullets and indentations. To exemplify what I did with
the problems: you summarize materialism saying you discussed two
problems, but I think you actually gave us three.

It might be helpful to give term definitions at the top. I have MS
Bookshelf on line and it is easy to check definitions, but others may
have a bit of trouble.

Also, a diagram that shows the tree of philosophy in its current
classical form:

Philosophy:
Its five+ branches - ...Ethics, Logic, Metaphysics, Aesthetics, and
Epistemology...
Metaphysics:
Its three+ branches - ...Cosmology, Ontology, and Philosophical Theology
Ontology:
Its many+ ISMs - ...Western Isms, Idealism, Materialism, Dualism, and
Eastern ISMs...

Drawn as a structure chart, this diagram is very useful. I did it in
Canvas, and it helps me. One potent use is to show where the MoQ
changes the classical view of Philosophy. I surmise that MoQ replaces
at least Ontology if not the entire level under Metaphysics. Also, MoQ
subsumes Quality so Aesthetics departs the layer just under Philosophy.
(Remember Phaedrus' excitement when he saw this the first time?)

Great work Martin! It is a delight to have you as a valued TLS-mate.

Mtty,

Doug Renselle.

-- 
"...the Metaphysics of Quality does not insist on a single exclusive
truth.  If subjects and objects are held to be the ultimate reality then
we're permitted only one construction of things--that which corresponds
to the 'objective' world--and all other constructions are unreal.  But
if Quality or excellence is seen as the ultimate reality then it becomes
possible for more than one set of truths to exist.  Then one doesn't
seek the absolute 'Truth.'"

Robert M. Pirsig Page 100, "Lila" hard-bound, Bantam, 1991.

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