LS Re: Sartre, Noumea, and Quality


Hugo Fjelsted Alroe (alroe@vip.cybercity.dk)
Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:32:04 +0100


At 21:42 05-11-97 -0500, Martin wrote:
>The problem I see with your views, Stephen, although they are very
>insightful, is that Dynamic Quality plays the role of a godhead. Since
>it is all of existence, the 'now,' and since all values come from it,
>then DQ would also have to be both being-in-itself (actuality) and
>being-for-itself (potency). Why? Because DQ is both everything that we
>don't perceive yet (potency) and everything that we perceive at the
>moment of perception, right now (actuality). And Sartre shows that a
>thing cannot be both its actuality and its potency, since then it would
>already have to be that which it is trying to become, which is a logical
>contradiction. So I don't know how much Sartre's philosophy can be
>compared to DQ, but I'm pretty sure he would reject it based on his
>ontological stance.

Martin, does Sartre intend his work as a metaphysics - or as a phenomenology?
If he works within phenomenology, as it seems from your description, he can
hardly judge a metaphysical theory, as any metaphysics would have to place
phenomenology in a larger perspective. I think confronting phenomenology
with metaphysics as if they were talking of the same thing will only bring
confusion.

On your (Sartres) use of actuality and potency above, and your comparison
with dynamic quality, I feel something is wrong but I find it difficult to
point out. For instance the following:
-->Because DQ is both everything that we don't perceive yet (potency) and
everything that we perceive at the moment of perception, right now (actuality)
<--
The problem is, that within the experience of a perceiving being everything
is dynamic quality. We have to move outside of the sphere of perception to
distinguish dynamic from static quality.
Perhaps you could elaborate a little bit on this, to help me understand
this argument?

Hugo

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