Hugo Fjelsted Alroe (alroe@vip.cybercity.dk)
Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:19:27 +0100
Hi Kevin, and welcome to the Lila Squad!
I suddenly felt old when you mentioned your age, but luckily we have a few
elders on the squad who may counterbalance you ;-)
You wrote:
> Victor Frankl wrote a book called, Man's Search for Meaning. In it he
>argued the for a new psychology: logotherpy. Where Freud said everything
>man does is for sex, where Bentham said everything man does is for
>happiness, where Adler said everything man does is for power; Frankl said
>everything man does is for meaning. While all of these are probably
>correct, placing meaning before happiness, power, and sex has definite
>implications for the MoQ. When meaning is seen as the center of man's
>action, everything man does is for an all-inclusive, qualitative value. In
>my opinion it is a psychology of quality.
I read Frankl at some point, and I found his ideas intuitively valuable, -
perhaps more and more so, the way our western type societies are
developing. I did not directly link him to Pirsig, though, and I glad you
pointed out that connection, which I will keep in mind.
In another mail you wrote:
> The
>thought started with a problem. I couldn't fathom where the properities
>were when someone looked at a book. Books have certain properties: weight,
>form, color, texture, good reading, etc. These properties weren't in the
>book, because different people gave different accounts of it. They weren't
>in the mind of the observer, because s/he couldn't experience the
>properities without the book being present at some time. The properties
>came due to a union between them. But my small mind couldn't put this
>revelation into context of a metaphysical paradigm. That is, until I read
>ZMM. All I had to do was replace properties with Quality and realize that
>the relationship between the seer and seen was Quality itself. Eureka!
>Luckily, I wasn't in a public bath when I read ZMM. : - )
I have had the same problem with properties, Kevin, and it was the combined
ideas of Gregory Bateson and Pirsig, which gave me the same Eureka
experience (well, at least a similar one ;-) as you had. Further in the
same direction, I have benefitted much from reading Charles S. Peirce, whom
you may know as a friend of William James, with a large influence on James'
thought.
>As for a bio,
>I have yet to really live. I am a bibliophile who longs for new experiences
>and paradigms which could bring wisdom.
Well, a bibliophilic life is considered a life among fellow bibliophiles,
and, yes, - wisdom would be nice (:-)
Greetings
Hugo
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