Re: MD DQ & emergence & consciouness

From: Joseph Maurer (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri Aug 06 2004 - 17:34:39 BST

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    On 03 August 2004 3:14 PM David writes to all:

    Hi all:
    The MOQ postulates that SQ emerges from DQ.
    So for example once upon a time there was no light,
    DQ brought the SQ pattern of a photon into existence.
    SQ implies that given a certain amount of energy the pattern
    of a photon is repeated in many places and at different times.

    Hi David and all.

    joe: i am trying to put precise word boundaries on the mystical and
    degenerate-mystical world of the MOQ. In the mystical world of MOQ I see
    EVOLUTION, DYNAMIC QUALITY, GRAVITY, PURPOSE, EXISTENCE, and UNFINISHED
    SQ/DQ. All else is SQ degenerate-mystical experience. Mystical is not
    subjective nor objective. IMO DQ and EXISTENCE are mystical experiences.
    They are brought together simultaneously in an evolved being of four levels
    in separate levels. A sentence that reads: "DQ brought the SQ pattern of a
    photon into existence.": translates into ? I see light. I cannot say that DQ
    exists nor how it exists, I can only experience it mystically.

    (talking to myself) All right, Wise guy, what is Time and Space? I need
    help.(sigh)

    Joe Maurer

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:30 PM
    Subject: Re: MD DQ & emergence & consciouness

    > Hi all
    >
    > The MOQ postulates that SQ emerges from DQ.
    > So for example once upon a time there was no light,
    > DQ brought the SQ pattern of a photon into existence.
    > SQ implies that given a certain amount of energy the pattern
    > of a photon is repeated in many places and at different times.
    > The patterns remains the same so that the identity of a photon
    > exists, although they can have different wave lengths of enourmous
    > range. Now I understand Pirsig as saying that DQ brought forth
    light/photons
    > and decided that it was good (values it as a pattern) and so allowed in to
    > be repeated/become a SQ pattern. Now Quality is really One and the
    emergence
    > of SQ from DQ is a sort of One becoming a Many until you get as far
    > as the emergence of conscious mankind. Seems to me that being
    > human is a mixture of SQ/DQ. Now it seems key to the effectiveness of
    > DQ that it makes informed choices based on value, seems to me this is
    > what humans try to do, seems to me that humans remember their past choices
    > and can therefore make good conscious decisions, seems to me that the
    > achievements
    > of nature with respect to the cosmos must involved informed choice/memory.
    > But why is it that as a human being we seem to only be able to remember
    our
    > own
    > encounters with DQ? Is it possible to recall the entire history of DQ
    > activity?
    >
    > regards
    > David M
    >
    >
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