Re: MD DQ & Naturalism

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Oct 12 2004 - 17:55:15 BST

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    Hi Platt

    So DQ is a concept that steps outside
    naturlalism. Interesting. Anyone disagree?
    I think I agree, because DQ touches the
    nothing from which something creatively emerges.
    But it is still something we can experience and
    use to imagine a world greater than the phenomenal
    world, hence Kant is refuted.

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>; <owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk>
    Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:02 PM
    Subject: RE: MD On Faith

    > Hi Chuck, Scott, All
    >
    > > I ran across this this morning while reading LILA.
    > >
    > > >From Chapter 17, pg. 254-255:
    > >
    > > "It's ironic that although the philosophy of science leaves no room for
    any
    > > undefined Dynamic activity, it's science's unique organization for the
    > > handling of the Dynamic that gives it its superiority. Science
    supercedes
    > > old religious forms, not because what it says is more true in any
    absolute
    > > sense (whatever that is), but because what it says is more Dynamic.
    > >
    > > If scientists had simply said Copernicus was right and Ptolemy was wrong
    > > without any willingness to further investigate the subject, then science
    > > would have simply become another religious creed. But Scientific truth
    has
    > > always contained an overwhelming difference from theological truth: it
    is
    > > provisional. Science always contains an eraser, a mechanism whereby new
    > > Dynamic insight could wipe out old static patterns without destroying
    > > science itself. Thus science, unlike orthodox theology, has been
    capable
    > > of continuous, evolutionary growth. As Phaedrus had written on one of
    his
    > > slips, "The pencil is mightier than the pen."
    > >
    > > Seemed pertinent to the conversation.
    >
    > As Scott as pointed out several times, orthodox theology has evolved over
    > the years in light of new knowledge. But, it's faith in a spiritual
    > presence hasn't changed from the beginning. Similarly, science has evolved
    > in the light of new knowledge. But it's faith in naturalism hasn't changed
    > from the beginning. It will not allow an unmeasurable creative power, like
    > DQ, into it's explanations.
    >
    > Platt
    >
    >
    >
    >
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