From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Oct 12 2004 - 17:55:15 BST
Hi Platt
So DQ is a concept that steps outside
naturlalism. Interesting. Anyone disagree?
I think I agree, because DQ touches the
nothing from which something creatively emerges.
But it is still something we can experience and
use to imagine a world greater than the phenomenal
world, hence Kant is refuted.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:02 PM
Subject: RE: MD On Faith
> Hi Chuck, Scott, All
>
> > I ran across this this morning while reading LILA.
> >
> > >From Chapter 17, pg. 254-255:
> >
> > "It's ironic that although the philosophy of science leaves no room for
any
> > undefined Dynamic activity, it's science's unique organization for the
> > handling of the Dynamic that gives it its superiority. Science
supercedes
> > old religious forms, not because what it says is more true in any
absolute
> > sense (whatever that is), but because what it says is more Dynamic.
> >
> > If scientists had simply said Copernicus was right and Ptolemy was wrong
> > without any willingness to further investigate the subject, then science
> > would have simply become another religious creed. But Scientific truth
has
> > always contained an overwhelming difference from theological truth: it
is
> > provisional. Science always contains an eraser, a mechanism whereby new
> > Dynamic insight could wipe out old static patterns without destroying
> > science itself. Thus science, unlike orthodox theology, has been
capable
> > of continuous, evolutionary growth. As Phaedrus had written on one of
his
> > slips, "The pencil is mightier than the pen."
> >
> > Seemed pertinent to the conversation.
>
> As Scott as pointed out several times, orthodox theology has evolved over
> the years in light of new knowledge. But, it's faith in a spiritual
> presence hasn't changed from the beginning. Similarly, science has evolved
> in the light of new knowledge. But it's faith in naturalism hasn't changed
> from the beginning. It will not allow an unmeasurable creative power, like
> DQ, into it's explanations.
>
> Platt
>
>
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