From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Nov 12 2004 - 17:15:20 GMT
Hi Sam,
msh said:
So, where does that leave us? Here are my options as I see them,
yours of course may be different: (1) I accept that QUALITY literally
created mind and matter because I have had a mystical revelation to
that effect. (2) I accept that QUALITY literally created mind and
matter because Phaedrus/Pirsig claims he had a mystical revelation to
that effect, and I believe him. (3) I assume that QUALITY creates
mind and matter because I find the MOQ to be, so far, the most useful
metaphysics in describing my own experience.
I reject (1) because I have had no such mystical revelation. I reject
(2) because it involves a leap of faith. I have no reason to believe
that the Phaedrus/Pirsig claim to mystical revelation (if such a
claim is even made) should be regarded any differently than any other
such claim. Why not go with Joan of Arc?
That leaves me with (3) for now.
sam asks:
Would you accept that (3) provides evidence for the truth of (2)?
msh says:
Ah, very tricky, Padre. :-)
If you are asking whether I believe the usefulness of the MOQ is
evidence of the truth of its premise that Quality creates subjects
and objects, I would say yes, in the same way that the usefulness of
Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion is "proof" that the planets travel
around the Sun in a single plane of perfect elippses. For me, these
things are assumptions that remain "true" only as long as they remain
powerful in developing language that is highly descriptive of
empirical reality.
If you are asking whether I believe the usefulness of the MOQ is
evidence that Phaedrus had a mystical revelation about Quality
creating subjects and objects, I'd say no, for the same reasons. And
no to JOA, as well. In fact, isn't there something about mystical
revelations that makes them impossible to verify, by definition?
Best,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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