From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Jan 23 2005 - 17:01:20 GMT
On 23 Jan 2005 at 8:54, Platt Holden wrote:
(from the Long and Winding Road)
You and MSH are all bent out of shape because Kerry lost the
election. If Kerry had won, would you still be complaining? Hardly.
Clinton spent more more on his inaugural after he sent U.S. troops in
Bosnia in a pre-emptive incursion, based on his lie that the troops
would only be there for a year. Not a peep out of the leftists.
msh says:
Actually, msh has been saying roughly the same things about every US
president since FDR, and a good many before. And he would have said
the same if Kerry had won.
Because you (Platt) are uncomfortable thinking outside the lib-con,
Republican-Democrat dichotomy, you keep trying to label me a "liberal
Democrat." To me, the democratic party is just the center-right half
of the American Business Party. When the demos are in power, one
might detect SLIGHTLY less damage done to the domestic population and
environment, due to democratic tendencies to treat symptoms not
diseases, but find no difference between the two when it comes to
foreign policy.
Just a brief and incomplete recap: The plot to overthrow the popular
governments of Iran and Guatemala, as well as the plot to invade Cuba
were hatched in the Eisenhower Administered; Kennedy invaded South
Vietnam; Johnson dramatically escalated the assault based on a lie
(The Gulf of Tonkin); Nixon and Kissinger played politics to keep
that war going well into the 70's, and extended their crimes to
include massive and illegal and secret bombing of Cambodia and Laos,
as well as the overthrow of a democratically elected government in
Chile. The Carter Administration gave financial and military support
to Indonesia in its genocide against the people of East Timor.
Reagan in Central America. Bush the first in Haiti, Panama, Iraq,
Libya. Clinton continued the the bombing and murderous sanctions
against Iraq all through his Presidency, launched missiles against
Sudan, and was behind the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia which pounded
that country back to a pre-industrial era, causing exponentially more
human misery than it prevented. And that brings us to Bush the
Second, the Force of Freedom.
In trying to understand the relationship of Power to Quality, it is
futile and confusing to focus on the imagined liberal-conservative
elements of party politics. In fact, when we do, our intellectual
energy is directed away from possible dynamic solutions to very real
Quality problems.
platt:
> > Speaking of Fox News, it's primetime coverage in numbers of
> > viewers is up 57% over 2001 while CNN dropped 14% and MSNBC went
> > down 47%. I think you should ask yourself, "Why?" (How large do
> > you suppose is the audience for the Guerrilla News?)
>
arlo:
> Because the right-wing is winning the propaganda war.
platt:
In other words, people are too stupid to recognize when they are
being manipulated? The election showed that most people weren't
fooled by leftist propaganda that Bush lied about WMD.
msh says:
It's not stupidity so much as psychological comfort. People cannot
comfortably believe in the truth about the actions of their
government, when those actions grate against everything they've been
taught since the cradle. It's hard to see blood dripping when it's
dripping on your own hands. This is the essence of cognitive
dissonance. And there's another factor: most people have to work
their asses off to make ends meet. When they get home from work, the
last thing they want to do is embark on a detailed study of American
foreign policy, so they watch the commercial media. Therefore, Power
has a vital interest in controlling the information available through
radio and television and, more and more, through the internet.
So, when the average Joe or Jane gets home from work and stumbles
across a list of crimes against humanity (such as the one offered
above) they are likely to be completely, and understandably,
incredulous. They've never heard such unbelievable ideas; this guy
must be from Neptune; and though these historical facts can be
verified, few people have the time or desire to check them out. It's
just easier, and much more comfortable, to disbelieve them, and to
turn on the TV set.
Every once in a while, however, someone does take the time to verify
the crimes mentioned and, when they do, they experience an
irreversible paradigm shift in their understanding of power in the
world. This shift is a Quality latch-up, and when enough co-existent
organisms have completed the shift, the species as a whole takes
another step toward Quality.
IMHO, of course.
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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