From: MarshaV (marshalz@charter.net)
Date: Mon Apr 11 2005 - 18:57:59 BST
Hi Sam,
At 05:05 PM 4/11/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>Marsha - I'm not sure, but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
>
>I'm wanting to explore with Mark the differences and similarities between
>a belief to do with faith, and a belief to do with science.
But why not compare with Mark your Jesus is the Son of God assumption from
both end of the stick? Compare it to a scientific belief and a less
strongly and emotionally held unscientific belief (Tinkerbell lives in
NeverLand).
>The claim that Jesus is the Son of God is a belief which is a question of
>faith. It is a core part of a developed belief system. It has been thought
>through by some of the greatest minds of our civilisation. Classically
>speaking, it is described as a truth unavailable to the unaided reason. In
>other words, you can't get to belief that Jesus is the Son of God through
>the application of reasoned argument. (NB that's not the same as saying
>that it is irrational, but I'm sure we'll come on to that).
For a very long time, many minds believed that the world was flat. Great
is not a fair adjective because your describing minds considered great
within your cultural belief system. I don't think your defense necessarily
holds.
>So far as I am aware Tinkerbell is the creation of JM Barrie in his
>stories about Peter Pan. It's not part of a developed belief system that
>shapes people's lives, nor have some of the greatest minds in our
>civilisation given a great deal of time to talking about her. Are you
>seriously suggesting that believing that Tinkerbell resides in Neverland
>is analogous to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God?
It's an addition to your little thought experiment. Maybe the arguments
you present will help prove that Jesus is the Son of God and that
Tinkerbell lives in Neverland. She might, you know.
>I can't tell if you're being facetious and teasing or are just profoundly
>ignorant.
I'm curious.
Marsha
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combination of the other two ways. It's a different way. - David Carradine.
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