Re: MD Awareness and intuition.

From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu May 08 2003 - 17:53:18 BST

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    Hi Matt,

    I am very sorry for quoting you as saying something you never said. I am
    sorry! Sorry! Sorry! I should remember when I try to put words into some's
    else's mouth I fall flat on my lips.

    > Joe,
    >
    > Joe said:
    > SOM makes a distinction in 'existence' to create subjective and objective
    > words (if we wish to talk to each other.) Does Pirsig fall into a similar
    > trap by making a distinction in 'quality'? Do we have 'subjective'
    quality
    > dq (indefianble), and 'objective' quality sq (definable static-latched
    dq)?
    >
    > My impression is that Matt E would say: "Yes he does, so forget it."

    Matt:
    Well now, wait a second. Never have a bashed the distinction that Pirsig
    draws in Lila. Compared to the usual list of Greek dichotomies, I like the
    distinction between dynamic and static. The mistake that I think Pirsig
    makes is attempting to do metaphysics. I see him as hypostatizing (as
    paradoxical as it looks) his distinction. In this case, both the MoQ and
    SOM, then, fall into similar modern philosophical problems. I think that
    Pirsig probably evades a subjective/objective distinction, but I don't think
    he evades an appearance/reality distinction.

    joe: if dq is seen as an aspect of the sq pattern I think the
    appearance/reality distinction is also eliminated.
    Again Thank You! for not letting me keep slumbering.

    Joe

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