From: Horse (email@example.com)
Date: Sat Feb 05 2005 - 01:46:15 GMT
There are several topic suggestions to choose from this month. As always if there
is not a clear winner - i.e. a tie - I'll select those that have tied and ask for a re-vote.
You have until about midnight UK time on Feb 7th (approx. 3 days) to send in your vote.
There is only 1 vote per member so please don't vote for more than 1 topic.
I will not be forwarding the vote posts to the list but will post the final
results some time after midnight on Monday, so don't get worried that your
post hasn't made it. I'll show all the voters on the CALL FOR VOTES final
results so if you don't see your name on it email me then.
Any topic that is not used will be added to a page of potential topics which
can be re-suggested at a later date.
Below you'll find the list of topics on which to vote.
DISCUSSION TOPICS FOR February 2005
1) "In the MOQ feeling corresponds to biological quality." (Pirsig in the
I'd like to suggest we spend a bit of time trying to work out what "feeling"
is, as referred to here, whether it's the same as "sensation" or "emotion",
and if so, whether this analysis stands up to scrutiny in the light of
contemporary understandings in the philosophy of mind and neuroscience.
2) PIRSIG: MODERN OR POSTMODERN?
Would you consider Pirsig's MOQ to be modern or postmodern. On the one hand,
thinking that the intellectual level will one day dominate the social one, the way the latter
now dominates the biological one, could be deemed as similar to the modern idea of
reason leading us to progress.
On the other hand, in view that in the MOQ there is no subject as such, but a series of
inorganic, static, biological, and intellectual patterns which I call "myself", Wouldn't you
consider that idea in agreement with postmodern thought?
3) Topic suggestion: Is there a correlation between Nietzsche's
"appolonian" versus "dionysian" and Pirsigs' division between SQ and DQ?
Reading into some of Nietzsche's writing lately I tried to understand
the way he uses the figure of the god Dionysus in his writings. Somehow
I got the feeling that Dionysus is to Nietzsche what Dynamic Quality is
to Pirsig. But I can't really prove this because the jargon is so very
different. Are there other out there who have ideas on how to treat this
kind of correlation? So my question is really two-fold:
1) Is there a correlation?
2) How can you "prove" such a correlation?
4) Since my subscription to www.moq.org , I have noticed the ebb of people
coming and going. This is quite a natural thing to happen on forums on the
internet. My Question(stated broadly, but its necessary for some
elaboration) is as follows:
Is it possible to utilise the ideas of the MoQ, and the members of this
site, as well as persons familiar with ideas discussed "here". Rather than
have people come and go from the forum and focus, keeping the active member
count relatively low, why not attempt to make the members active members of
change, in their communities. This can not be done on a solitary basis, as
we all have occupations, families, and responsiblities that consume all of
the time in our lives. However, can the actual physical meeting of members
of the MoQ, based on location, bring about positive results?
So , basically, what steps can we take for the MoQ (as it were) to make a
positive influence on our world?
Ideas are are nothing, if not catalysts for action. (?)
5) Why has the MOQ FOCUS Forum been so detached from Dynamic Quality
lately? I am thinking about the reasons for the two-month pause.
Can that tendency be changed intentionally? That is to ask: Can one be linked to
DQ intentionally, is there a program, an action plan, to do so?
6) According to the MOQ, is superman superior to batman? (The other day I read
an article that said Val Kilmer is a huge fan of Nietzsche. It got me
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