Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:05:45 +0100
Hi, Anders and TLS!
Anders Nielsen wrote:
>
> > I stated the paradox to Pirsig a little differently:
> >
> > o A: Statement B is true.
> > o B: Statement A is false.
> >
> > If you place both of these sentences in one context (which is what
> SOM
> > does with everything) you get, guess what, paradox(es). You feel
> this
> > kind of brain-locked looping stupor. It makes you dizzy.
> >
> > My point to Pirsig and to my fellow TLS mates (this paradox is not
> new,
> > I did not originate it, countless others have used this example -
> except
> > I have not seen anyone else solve it the way I am about to show you
> - if
> > you know of another person who has already done this, please share)
> is
> > that MoQ and QM and the concept of many truths eliminates the
> paradox.
>
> Isn't it just a basic requirement of rational thought (and
> comprehensible
> speech/writing) not to contradict yourself during an argument. And so
> if I
> were to do it anyway for example in the form of a sentence "All people
> named Anders lie all the time", I'd break this "law" and hence make no
> sense (make a meaningless uttering). I don't think this has anything
> to do
> with SOM?
>
> Your multiple context idea appeals to me on a sub-conscious level (but
> I
> can't grasp it fully), so could you show some examples where you use
> this
> idea?
>
Anders,
That's the thing about paradoxes and belief systems which generate
them. They keep people confused and dizzy for millennia. Imagine the
coming revolution when MoQ moves to the fore...
There are many examples, but if I give you a few simple, real-life ones
you will be able to invent ( :-) ) your own 'better' ones.
Vis. - A residence in a small neighborhood. Man-wife at home. Home has
lots of windows. One, front window is open. Car is in driveway.
Passenger window is down. Weather man says rain is coming. Man and
wife decide to go to movie. They go to the car and jump in. Man says
to wife, "Honey, will you please close the window."
Vis. - Man in Toronto wants to know how to get to Denver. Has a friend
in LA and a friend in Chicago. He calls each for directions. Friend in
Chicago gives directions from Chicago to Denver. Friend in LA gives
directions from LA to Denver.
Vis. - You are in church. You are instructed to, "Turn to page 34."
You have a hymnal and a bible on your lap.
Anders, see if these help. The big thing here is the SOM-dumb
assumption of a single, absolute context (e.g., Einstein and his Grand
Unifying Theory) versus the MoQ-wise awareness of many truths and their
concomitant, many contexts (E.g., Niels Bohr, et al., and
complementarity).
Many truths to you, Anders,
Doug Renselle.
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