Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:57:55 +0100
Dave,
I like what you wrote on art and Art.
On the pronuciation of Lila, I intended for 'eye' to be a long 'I.' You
probably read it like this: Le eye lah. That is not what I intended. I
meant LI lah. :)
Everyone with whom I have spoken says it that way. Note though that in
Dancing Wu Li Masters the Li is 'Lee.'
I enjoy the discussions on A-art, so I am going to observe for awhile.
Mtty,
Doug Renselle.
Dave Thomas wrote:
>
> Ciona
>
> > What is the moral value of art? Would anyone be interested in
> pursuing this?
>
> Assume by art you a referring to the capital "A" type as in Diana's
> prior posting:
>
> > Art as in any endeavour taken to the level that it becomes an Art
> (note the capital
> > "A").That can be anything - the Art of music or painting, but
> equally the Art
> >of computer programming, basketball playing, hotel management.
> Pirsig's code
> of Art is I think
> >refering only to the second type and it's a synonym for dynamic
> quality; he
> probably didn't want >to use the word Art because it is too easily
> confused
> with art in its usual meaning.
>
> Though in general I agree with her analysis my take is slightly
> different. As
> a preface, Art is a topic very much like what Pirig said about
> defining
> Quality. "Don't do it. You'll get into nothing but trouble. It's just
> going to
> start a thousand dumb arguments..." One could infer from his mention
> of the
> "Code of Art" that Art is synonymous with Dynamic Quality. Under MoQ
> the
> source of all things is Dynamic Quality so Art also surely originates
> from
> there. But IMO, Art is the attempt to capture, illustrate, freeze,
> recreate,
> etc. if you will Dynamic Quality. As such it is very much as Pirsig
> said about
> writing a metaphysics, "in the strictest mystic sense, a degenerate
> activity."
> Why? Because it never truly succeeds. The close calls are the static
> patterns
> we call "A"rt. The rest are at best little "a" art. Art degenerates in
> the
> process of conversion from is dynamic source into a static pattern and
> in
> doing so loses its higher quality. If this were not so the artist
> would stop
> awe struck the first time Dynamic Quality was truly captured. It's the
> pursuit
> of this allusive prey that keeps artists going.
>
> Is art moral? In a MoQ sense, yes, because it can be one of the
> greatest
> exercises of freedom a person can make. Just as writing a Metaphysics
> can lead
> to electro-shock treatments, Art can lead one to lose an ear.
>
> P.S. Doug's, Leye-Lah, is almost right for the South, but Lye-Lah is
> right up
> there also.
>
> Dave
>
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-- "Socrates himself says it is an analogy...Everything is an analogy. But the dialecticians don't know that."By Robert M. Pirsig, in 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,' pp. 351-2, Bantam (paperback), 28th edition, 1982.
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