LS Re: Conceptions of Dynamic Quality


Bodvar Skutvik (skutvik@online.no)
Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:12:09 +0100


Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:00:09 +0000
Maarten Smits concluded:

> In Buddhism the Dharmakaya is the dimension of unconditioned
> truth, into which any kind of concept has never entered. It is the
> "ground of all", from which subjects and objects emerge.
 
> To summarize this point, I think that DQ and the Dharmakaya, while
> not necessarily identical, do convey much the same meaning.
> Dharmakaya therefore should have nothing to do with occultism;
> Bodvar, can you agree with this?

Maarten.
How did you manage to stay in the wings for so long with such
well-founded and well-formulated opinions? Anyway welcome to the LS.
Yes I agree to "the occult" being a very loose term; it was really
"the supernatural" I had in mind. I also admit that P of LILA denies
that the Dharmakaya Light is something magical.

If the occult is the trash-heap of subject/objectivism, then the
miraculous is its UNASSIMILATED tray. I once participated at a
discussion forum on Colin Wilson (who is an authority in
this field) but it ended in a frustrating impasse. Everyone there was
unfamiliar with Quality so it was SOM's two trenches: either you
believe everything or everything is rejected offhandely.

I will not tire you by describing the line of argument, but when
I tried to introduce the Quality twist to it, I soon understood
that it is the Greek paradoxes all over again: they wanted it
explained on the subject/object premises, and that's not possible:
SOM is the CREATOR of the impossibilities! There simply is no
supernatural in the MOQ scheme.

This may mistakenly be received as if the Quality has no room for
mystery, that it is "cold" and super-rational - sterile, but nothing
is more wrong. This much said, what phenomenons do I classify as
"mysterious"? Facetiously: everything in a SOM context, but that will
not do. I shall be more specific, but first a digression. I feel that
my reputation as a pillar of rationality at the LS is at stake by
wallowing into such a minefield, and yet the MOQ cannot refuse to
be applied. Everything is transformed by it so why not the
paranormal?

I will not bring in UFOs or X-files - that is not my great interest
- but there are phenomenons so well-documented that one must be
wilfully blind to refuse its presence. The so-called "poltergeist"
effect: young person's uncanny ability to wreck havock on their
surroundings. There are many conspicuous examples, but it's no use
piling up "facts" , again - everything is really supernatural in the
SOM universe (moving my body by mental willpower is a major magical
act. No one has ever explained how mind interacts with matter), but
people only reacts when the more sensational action-at-a-distance is
involved.

But I am already exhausted by this extremely difficult balance act so
let me return in a later instalment. Your - and anyone else's -
comments are however greatly appreciated.

Bo Skutvik

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