Re: MD faith

From: Ryan Terry (rterry@galaxymall.com)
Date: Thu Mar 23 2000 - 21:36:00 GMT


Matt I think you made some very good points
My instinct tells me to agree with you 100%
but that is just a product of SQ and IQ
In Lila, pp. 223-4 it says
        "It seems as though a society that is intolerant of all forms of
degeneracy shuts off its own Dynamic growth and becomes static. But a
society that tolerates all forms of degeneracy degenerates. Either
direction can be dangerous.... how do you tell the saviors from the
degenerates? Particularly when they look alike, talk alike and break all
the rules alike? Freedoms that save the saviors also save the degenerates
and allow them to tear the whole society apart. But restrictions that stop
the degenerates also stop the creative Dynamic forces of evolution."

I think that what you have said is in direct agreement with Pirsig.
Ryan Terry
rterry@galaxymall.com

At 12:57 PM 3/23/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Howdy all,
>
>I have three guesses about my previous post:
>
>A:
>1) Nobody read it.
>2) Everybody read it.
>3) Some people read it, some people didn't.
>&
>B:
>1) Everybody who read it thinks I'm an illogical nut.
>2) Everybody who read it thinks it's peachy keen.
>3) Everybody who read it didn't understand it because I didn't explain it
>well enough.
>
>
>I'll assume it's #3A and maybe #1,3B and go on.
>
>
>Faith another word for SQ.
>Faith is another word for assumption.
>
>Logic has its roots in faith (SQ).
>Religion has its roots in faith (SQ).
>
>Imagine this picture:
>
>Person A assumes: I believe in an all-powerful God who randomly decided to
>create me and is going to make a little happy land for me when I die. God
>runs the universe.
>
>Person B assumes: Everything is based on logic. Logic is right. Logic runs
>the universe.
>
>Person A is going to say, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, that God did it.
>Person B is going to say, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, that Logic did it.
>
>Can't you guys see the similarities? Aren't they equally absurd?
>
>BTW: "absurd" = logical flaw within the Classical Reasoning
> a.k.a. contradictory, circular, FEELING
>
>What if BOTH AND NEITHER beliefs are Good?
>
>It just depends on where you stand.
>
>Schrodinger's cat. (I can't spell. So shoot me. I'm a mathman.)
>Quantum theory.
>free will/determinism
>empiricism/in-your-head-ism
>God/No God
>Yes/No
>
>Don't these ALL look contradictory?
>
>What if EVERYTHING IS BASED IN CONTRADICTIONS?
>What if EVERYTHING IS BASED IN FEELINGS AND QUALITY?
>
>SQ is a concrete feeling.
>DQ is a wishy-washy feeling.
>
>Our SQ is a mountain.
>Which foundations are we going to keep?
>
>Which will stand up to the forces of DQ?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>MJC
>
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