In a message dated 2/12/02 3:28:19 PM GMT Standard Time, pholden@sc.rr.com
writes:
<< Subj: Re: MD MOQ and solipsism
Date: 2/12/02 3:28:19 PM GMT Standard Time
From: pholden@sc.rr.com (Platt Holden)
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Hi Squonk, John B, Bo:
John B. wrote:
>> Pirsig constantly refers to the
>> isolation of modern life, but has no solutions that I can see. >>
Squonk replied:
> The solution lies with not wishing to conform to social values informed by
> SOM intellectual values. MOQ intellectual values allow freedom from that
> which may be differentiated right or wrong intellectually.
Two points about Squonk's reply that hit home runs. First, Both SOM
and the MOQ are intellectual, rational, reasonable, empirical, i.e., both
exist at the intellectual level (with the caveat of Bo's further explanation
of MOQ as a fifth level). Second, SOM's ability to determine right from
wrong is so weak as to allow a return to the last static latch--Victorian
style, fundamentalist inspired social control, the prime example being
political correctness where certain ideas and words are forbidden and
where "sensitivity training" (brainwashing) is not only accepted, but
encouraged.
Isolation will cease when humans discard the SOM premise of a
purposeless world and adopt the MOQ premise that the world is a
moral order. Then social right and wrong can be based on a rational
MOQ rather than group power struggles, fickle emotions and
amorphous soups of sentiments.
My conviction that the world has moral purpose stems from the
seeming lack of purpose of Beauty, yet without Beauty the world would
be unrecognizable. A world without beauty would be without "elegant"
scientific and mathematical laws. An absolute Impossibility. (-:
Platt
>>
Very well put i feel.
My replies tend to be rather short, but Platt expands eloquently.
Many thanks,
Squonk.
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