Re: MD Consciousness

From: elliot hallmark (onoffononoffon@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jul 06 2002 - 10:13:35 BST


Maggie,

you said:
>If we go Pirsig, mind is stored in society, society's stored in biology,
>biology's stored in the inorganic.
>
>maggie

Elliot:
Well, perhaps you chose a bad verb on accident or without thinking? Mind is
not stored in society, it encompasses and trancends it. stored in makes it
sound like mind is less than society, when in fact mind is more than
(although society is more fundemental {span v. depth}). Based on, dependant
upon, woven from, i could accept those but not stored in, society is not a
box which contains mind, mind is far more than society or biology could ever
hope to grasp!

(and to others, not maggie as far as i know)
And about this "what is the mind in" question. Do you want someone to say
brain? how large is a concept, and is it bigger than a notion? can we plot
these on a space time diagram? a light in a room flashes, the light is in
the room, is flashing also constrained to the room? or is flashing
something that transcends physical boundries?

in what is mind contained? Mu. it is contained in words, in personal
histories. is it chemicals in the brain? does it resonate and vibrate (back
and forth between the sides of the skull i imagine)? doesn't consiousness
come before objects to contain things? is not consiousness (sentiance, the
ability to percieve and respond to Quality) an aspect of the walls
themselves?

maybe i missed the point,
Elliot

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