--- Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com> wrote: > Hi Bo,
Jonathan:
>
> Bo:
> > I am as said dead tired of pointing to this being
> the STARTING POINT of the
> > MOQ. Pirsig called his new point of departure
> "Value", but I agree with you
> > that "Meaning" may be as meaningful - "Nirvana"
> isn't bad either -
> > inspired by Scott I jokingly suggested "Bias" -
> the point is (and now I am
> > dead serious) that it becomes a metaphysics of
> whatever people figure the
> > innermost reality (To Killerblade it would be a
> "Bollocks" :-) Yet, Quality
> > is the best.
>
> Whoa. Hold on there. I must be missing something
> really big. The
> starting point of the MOQ can be "meaning?" Or
> "Nirvana?" Or
> "Bollocks?" In other words, the starting point can
> be whatever you want
> to be, whatever turns you on?
>
> Here all along I've been under the illusion,
> apparently, that the starting
> point of the MOQ was Morality, that is, the good,
> the bad, and the ugly.
> Doesn't Pirsig make it clear that "meaning"
> (intellectualizing) is a
> secondary phenomena, derivative from direct
> experience of a morally
> ordered, value-laden, Quality universe? Doesn't the
> fact that Pirsig
> concludes that Lila has Quality reflects her
> goodness, not her undefined
> meaning, whatever that means?
>
> Either I've misinterpreted you guys or Pirsig or the
> meaning of
> "meaning.". Please tell me how I've gone wrong. When
> Bo says, "Yet,
> Quality is the best" isn't that the STARTING POINT
> of the MOQ--moral
> judgments--this is better (or worse) than that?
>
> Confused in the U.S.,
>
> Platt
>
Platt,
Isn't quality = morality?
Example: An engineer is supposed to produce a quality
car, so that it doesn't crash. His quality duty is
also a moral duty.
André
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