Re: MD Understanding Intellect

From: skutvik@online.no
Date: Fri Jul 19 2002 - 16:57:31 BST


Platt, Maggie, Bartz, Erin and crowd.

Platt said:
> If I read you right, whichever of our conflicting value levels
> dominates at the moment determines what we feel and say we "like." In
> a similar fashion, Bartz's idea that "perception is reality" reflects
> what level currently dominates the "perceiving" situation, guided by
> "liking" Is this an accurate interpretation of your revealing new
> perspective on MOQ reality?

Yes, you have read me right and as LILA speaks about a human being as
"a "jungle of values" I hope I have read the MOQ right. You (Platt and
Maggie) will remember how we debated the self - or identity - problem in a
MOQ perspective: Who "monitors" the levels? I can't recall what we arrived
at exactly, but Diana had some useful input there. I also agree with what you
said about chance's role in SOM, but won't open the "creation vs Darwin"
can too :-)

Maggie said:

> Good morning, Bo.
> You made my day:

> On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 04:36 AM, skutvik@online.no wrote:
> > Conclusion: Dynamic Value is not whatever we like, rather that
> > existence is
> > LIKING.
 
Thank's, hope it wasn't ironic. Terrible subtle stuff this, but important.

Bartz Johnson said:
(to Erin)
> Simple enough. Perception IS reality.
> This is true for the resident of the state hospital and for the Mayor of
> Boston and the college student, ...ad nauseum.

Hi Bartz, yes I think your "perception is reality" fits nicely with how I
understand it (as Platt pointed out) on the condition that perception doesn't
solely imply biological sensing because inorganic value is also part of the
Quality universe. By the way, the inorganic level is a field we have neglected
greatly since the early days when Doug Renselle did nothing but speak of it
in connection with Quantum Physics.

The "resident of the state hospital and Mayor of Boston..etc." I don't get. Is it
to say "high and low"?

Finally, the "... Seagull" author's name is Richard Bach, wow, do I remember
him from the seventies and eighties? Not only the book you referred to, but
also also the one about his Air Force days (can't remember the title) and "A
Bridge Across Forever". Very good!

Erin said:

> No Bo I didn't put that quote to back up "whatever you like is
> value". I have been saying that liking is good guide to quality and thus
> reality and by the way it is "what you like is value". I also have never
> proposed liking was decided either by a single static level. Funny this
> conclusion isn't really much different from what liking is an important
> guide to reality. So this has gone from something that is too much to
> comment on to this? Glad Andre and I could help ya:) erin

OK, much obliged. You did not LIKE my saying "too much to comment
on"but that didn't allude to your inputs being irreleveantor anything, just that
it would make my message too long.
  
Bo

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