That was very nicely said Platt.
I wanted to ask Bart wouldn't it be better to say
"perception is experienced reality"?
erin
>Hi Bartz:
>
>BARTZ:
>> As much as I love MOQ, I cannot allow myself to complicate the issues when
>> my PERCEPTION (read reality) is that "perception is reality". 'Liking' is
>> always a value judgement and will always remain an individualistic
>> perception. That is why you can get away with "reality is whatever you
>> like". I certainly cannot propose a happy balance 'Formula', but it does
>> have to do with untraining ourselves from the knee jerk reactions and
>> ascertaining those 'value judging' moments for what they really mean to
>> you. Me thinks I ramble too much.
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>I think the MOQ says that perception is first focused on value and value
>is reality. There's no escape. You value your perception that "perception
>is reality." You say you value the MOQ but consider simplicity (not
>"wanting to complicate the issues") to be a higher value. Values always
>seem to enter the picture. In fact, Pirsig goes so far as to say we don't
>perceive what we don't value.
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>I agree that perception (not necessarily human) is a requisite of reality,
>as quantum physics has verified. But perception is always "of"
>something, even when the something is the nothing of Zen meditation.
>What is perceived first in all cases is quality, like the example of the
>perceived low quality of sitting on a hot stove Pirsig describes in LILA.
>
>I suppose one can say without going too far astray from the MOQ not
>only that "reality is liking" but also "reality is value judgments" or more
>simply, "choices." The more choices, the greater the freedom, the
>higher the quality. But I ramble.
>
>Platt
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