Hi Gary,
>From my side, with only interest in Tao-Tao, I can
intuit the rest. The Classic stuff doesn't really
interest me. Thanks for your contribution to my
self-understanding.
yours,
André
--- Gary Jaron <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Andre,
> Taoism existed well before Pirsig, this is true.
> But Taoism is framed in
> Romantic Quality terms and thus is not "well formed
> " for a Classic Quality
> audience. Pirsig created a Classic Quality
> formatted Taoism, in a sense.
> But he did something also very new and significant.
> The significance is
> that there is a difference between using 'Tao' and
> using 'Quality'.
> Quality-Taoism is different from Tao-Taoism. Thus
> Pirsig's system is not
> exactly equivalent to Taoism, although the two are
> similar.
> Actually we are not " arguing about the meaning of
> Quality ". We are
> discussing and arguing on many occasions about the
> application of Quality in
> specific instances. Significantly different than
> "arguing about the
> meaning of Quality ".
>
> Difference are significant,
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: André <psytrancekid@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: MD what a mess
>
>
> > --- Gary Jaron <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com> wrote: >
> Hi
> > Zykaine,
> > > Actually Pirsig did write something new, it is
> > > simply that you are not
> > > recognizing it as new due to some specifically
> > > personal factors of your own.
> > > The explanation of why you react to Pirsig the
> way
> > > you do is something to do
> > > with what ideas have shaped you before you
> > > encountered Pirsig.
> > >
> > > What is new is the idea that Quality is a word
> for
> > > the Tao.
> >
> > Pirsig took a well formed metaphysics, Taoism, and
> > made it harder to understand. This group will be
> > arguing about the meaning of Quality until the end
> of
> > time :o)
> >
> > André
> >
> >
> >
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