Ludwig Wittgenstein in Philopsophical Investigations Third Edition 1953
writes: "
After several unsuccessful attempts to weld my results together into such a
whole, I realized I should never succeed. The best that I could write would
never be more than philosophical remarks; My thoughts were soon crippled if
I tried to force them on in any single direction against their natural
inclination.--- And this was, of course, connected with the very nature of
the investigation. For this compels us to travel over a wide field of
thought criss-cross in every direction.----- The philosophical remarks in
this book are, as it were, a number of sketches of landscapes which were
made in the course of these long and involved journeyings."
P.D. Ouspensky in A New Model of The Universe 1931 writes: "Let us try to
imagine the four methods of observation and reasoning in relation to the
room in which I am writing this. The defective method is based upon a
glance at the room through the keyhole or through a narrow slit and its
characteristic feature is the certainty that what is seen through the
keyhole or the slit represents all there is and that there is and can be
nothing else in it except what is visible in this way. Given a certain
imagination and a tendency toward superstiti0on the defective method can
make something very strange or monstrous out of an ordinary room.
"The logical method is based upon a glance at the room from one definite
spot, at one definite angle, and usually without enough light. Too big a
confidence in it and the defense of this angle of vision makes the logical
method defective.
"The psychological method compared with the first two would be like a view
of the room in daylight, moving about in it in various directions, knowing
the objects in it and so on. It is quite clear that it is possible to learn
more about the room in this way than by the logical mlethod, and that it is
possible to find many mistakes and wrong conclusions of the defective
method.
"The esoteric method of approach to the study of the room would include not
only the whole room with everything it contains but the whole house, all the
people in it with all their relationships and their occupations, and
fruther, the position of the house in the street, of the street in the town,
of the town in the country, of the country on the earth, of the earth in the
solar system and so on. The esoiteric method is limited by nothig and
always connects every given thing, however small it may be, with the whole."
Robert Persig in Lila p. 416 writes: "James said, 'Truth is one species of
good, and not, as is usually supposed, a category distinct from good, and
coordinate with it.' He said, 'the true is the name of whatever proves
itself to be good in the way of belief.'
"'Truth is a species of good.' That was right on. That was exactly
what is meant by the Metaphysics of Quality. Truth is a static intellectual
pattern whthin a larger entity called Quality."
zykaine wrote 7/21: "What a mess mr.pirsig has created in your heads. He
writes nothing new nor special."
G.I. Gurdjieff in Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson copyright 1950 writes:
"Only such a sensation and such a cognizance can now destroy the egoism
completely crystallized in them that has swallowed up the whole of their
Essence and also that tendency to hate others which flows from it--the
tendency, namely, which engenders all those mutual relationships existing
there, which serve as the chief cause of all their abnormalities unbecoming
to three-brained beings and maleficent for them themselves and for the whole
of the Universe."
www.taoism.net What is Tao?
"Tao (pronounced "dao") means literally 'the path' or 'the way'. It is a
universal principle that underlies everything from the creation of galaxies
to the interaction of human beings. The workings of Tao are vast and often
beyond human logic. In order to understand Tao, reasoning alone will not
suffice. One must also apply intuition." (you mean like with a brush?)
The cat meows because she is hungry! (fortunately she doesn't write as it
would take volumes)
The giants beat the dodgers. (they play baseball)
The paint has all peeled off the bathroom walls.
Joe, a retired plumber.
> Oh!!!
>
> What are all these things here in this mans head?
>
>
> >From: "jhmau" <jhmau@sbcglobal.net>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> >Subject: Re: MD what a mess
> >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:03:47 -0700
> >What a mess mr.pirsig has created in your heads. He writes nothing new
nor
> >special. His advice isn't new - to pursue dynamic quality. His words
> >differ.
> >The whole MOQ created in his book lila is nothing more than many a
mountain
> >poem, as i said before. What i see here isn't my business anyway - i've
> >nothing to do with ghosts in the devil cave. what a mess mr.pirsig has
> >created in your heads. blue skies!!!
> >
> >Zykaine
> >
> >"I do, and I know not what I do!" I value whispers from the
subconscious.
> >Quality (aware) is (subconscious) value (subconscious) in a manner of
> >speaking. Value is true and good. If I change my action I become aware
of
> >my value. If I follow no stable action I am mad. The now is an
overflowing
> >plate. My value affects my instinctive quality. A guide, a pointing
> >finger, is required. My likes? A strong desire allows few distractions.
> >Strong distractions changes my actions. A harsh environment, for example
> >standing on one foot for 30 years, empties my cup though I still leave my
> >thumb print. It is unprofitable for Israel to make the Palestinians'
life
> >more difficult. Violence, in Shakespeare's eyes, is more likely to be
done
> >by a thin man than a fat man. Are true and good merely descriptions? Is
> >there an instinct for doing as well as for knowing ? Are they different?
> >Do I want to enjoy a song? Persig's finger points, and having pointed
> >moves
> >on.
> >
> >Joe
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