Hi Platt,
Nice to hear from you. My impish humor prompts me to reply....
----- Original Message -----
From: Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness
> Hi Bo, Scott, Gary, All:
>
> SCOTT (to Gary):
> > In my opinion, you are denying the MOQ. Specifically, Pirsig adopts >as
the
> > primary distinction that into DQ and sq. He then categorizes sq into
four
> > levels, inorganic, biological, social, and intellectual, each level
> > developing out of the previous, thanks to DQ. Note that there is no
> > division into internal and external reality. He then says that what we
> > commonly call subjective can be identified as the social and
intellectual
> > levels, and objective the other two. Again, no division into internal
and
> > external reality. just a definition of two words. In traditional terms,
no
> > mind/matter division.
>
> I agree with Bo that Scott has beautifully expressed one of the central
> principles of the MOQ, namely, "There is no division into internal and
> external reality." This, of course, is anathema to the science faithful.
> Anyone in the scientific community expressing such a belief would be
> promptly excommunicated--a victim of the "no infidels allowed effect."
> The sinner would join those who hint at a possible supernatural force at
> work in the universe.
>
> No wonder society is in trouble. Values verboten.
>
> Platt
GARY'S RESPONSE: I had to disrupt your church service for the faithful, but
down the street in my church The Holy Order of the Truly All Knowing Masters
of Quality, aka the Reform branch of Pirsig theology, I can explain why
Pirsig and us all do have to acknowledge the internal/ external reality ,
map/territory & word/thing division. Keep on reading all my long and
lengthy sermons and you to will join in with the choir to sing halleluiah to
Koestler and Wilber!!!!!
Hope you get the joke,
Gary
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