hi, ken:
your distinction between universal quality and sentient quality makes sense
to me. i have been aware of this for some time and captured this insight in
a poem which begins with the lines:
Born feeling the pulse of the universe.
Lost misguidedly searching for a pulse
of its own.
in this poem i try to show how women are very closely tied to the pulse of
the universe because of our ability to create life.
it is only when we deviate from this pulse of creation that we become lost
trying to dance to Man-created rhythms. all of us, whether male or female,
can tune in to the beating pulse of the universe...only i believe for women
it is easier because of our biological makeup geared for the creation of
life.
if you would like to read the entire poem, it is in the url below.
lithien
http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/9pixiedust.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Clark <clark@netsites.net>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Cc: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 10:47 AM
Subject: MD Brain, Mind, and Intellect
>WALTER.
>You can't leave before you have cleared up a mystery. You quote
>Ken Clark's:
>
>> > .... If this is so then it seems to me that perhaps we
>> > should begin with universal Quality in mind and recognize that
>> > human Quality should fit within the overall requirements of
>> > universal Quality. I suspect that such an approach would alleviate
>> > many of the value and morality problems we are having when we view
>> > the human situation in isolation
>
>and say:
>
>> This is exactly what I feel and for which I welcomed Keith's post
>
>What exactly is the "universal quality" as different from "human
>quality"?
>
>Bodvar,
> The question you have raised is the question that some of us have been
>crying in the wilderness about for quite some time.
> My view of Quality is that it came into existence (operation) at the time
>of the beginning of the universe and the force of Quality is responsible
>for everything that has happened since. In this view the universe is a
>living entity operating under the guidance of quality and does not require
>sentience, or even life, to function. This Quality force resulted in the
>physical parameters that produced the inorganic organaization that resulted
>in prebiotic molecules, then biotic molecules, then life in all of its
>complexity. This life, us, for instance, is just one of the expressions of
>the underlying universal quality which controls the ongoing functioning of
>the universe and will continue to control it until the universe reaches
>whatever end, if any, it is headed toward.
> Resulting from the underlying universal Quality eventually comes
>sentience in the form of humanity which eventually builds up the knowledge
>and understanding to recognize that there is such a thing as Quality
>operating in the universe. The problem is that humanity, so far, perceives
>Quality as applying solely to the human situation. Many of us have not yet
>grasped the idea that the Quality force originated with the universe and
>that the human perception of Quality is just an offshoot of universal
>Quality. Sentient (human) Quality is, to some extent, under the control of
>the human mind and thus does not necessarily operate in accordance with
>universal Quality. Universal Quality and sentient Quality may well be at
>odds with each other. It seems obvious to me that this is the case in some
>instances. The task of the Squad is to keep our eyes firmly fixed on the
>requirements of universal Quality and judge the operation of sentient
>Quality in that light. If we look at the history of the biosphere we can
>see that sentient Quality is causing a problem with regard to universal
>Quality.
> Hope I have made myself clear. Ken
>
>
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