mary:
you seem to spend a lot of time being confused. maybe if you finished
reading the book or the articles and then came back with some dialectical
questions (not the ones you pretend to have ) but some specific ones from
the articles or the book, then your confusion would disappear.
the fort is being overrun, mary. i suggest you use a new strategy.
Lithien
http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/Lila2.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary <mwittler@geocities.com>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: MD Brain, Mind and Intellect
>Hi Squad,
>
>Glove said:
>>there really is a deep
>>underlying mysticism at work in the universe that is recognizable whenever
>>reality is penetrated deeply enough.
>
>I'm getting pretty confused again (I seem to stay that way a lot since I
>started participating in the group <grin>). My personal static
intellectual
>patterns are asking me to go back to the basics when trying to understand
>something new, so I'd like to ask for input on how to define mysticism and
>reality. The dictionary here beside the computer is no help:
>
>Mysticism - Consciousness of transcendent reality or of God through deep
>meditation or contemplation.
>
>Reality - The quality or state of being actual or true. One that exists
>objectively.
>
>As you can see, these definitions taken together seem to beg the question
of
>each other, and even more confusing is the introduction of transcendent
>reality into the definition of mysticism. Does transcendent reality really
>mean a reality that transcends reality? Since reality is defined as being
>actual or true, then the definition of mysticism seems to imply that there
>is something that is more true than true and more actual than actual.
>
>I realize that a dictionary definition is going to be based in S-O thinking
>and is also implicitly going to be from the SOM point of view, but this is
>really too much! I'd like to invite those of you with an opinion to lay
out
>your view of reality and mysticism. Maybe that way myself and others of us
>in the "logic" camp will be able to have a basis for discussion about it.
>Oh, and saying it's like Zen doesn't help me much unless you are willing to
>define that too. I don't even dare to see what the dictionary people have
>done with that one!
>
>So many posts seem to be going around and around in circles with neither
>side really able to hear what the other is saying. Perhaps we will never
be
>able to reach a consensus, but I hope we can at least correctly understand
>each other.
>
>Best wishes,
>Mary
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