Fintan and Squad,
>Really ? Ever heard of Stonehenge, The Pyramids of Egypt, Glastonbury?
>The old civilisations not only knew the movements of the stars, they knew
>the circumference of the earth to within 1% accuracy. They even knew 4,000
>years
>ago, what star our own Sun revolved about- Sirius.
>Our civilisation did not discover that last fact until a hundred years ago.
>Mary, every civilisation propagandises that what it replaced was rubbish.
>Ours is no exception. Time to do a head-dump on that propaganda.
I said, at the time mysticism was developed. It was developed long before
any of the civilizations you've mentioned. Cro-Magnon man likely used
mystical explanations for things he didn't understand.
>Agricultural Engineering is destroying the ecosystem, Mary. Ruining in
years
>what took nature centuries to build. The crop cultures of old were far,
far,
>advanced of our modern methods. Read your Inca history. If medicine is
>curing us then how come our huge medicine budgets are proof that we have-
>in fact never been sicker. ! !
I agree that agricultural engineering is destroying our ecosystem. I'm
personally very concerned about Gaia's health. But I must point out that
at the time these agricultural practices were developed, no one knew what
harm they would eventually do. There were no ecologists screaming out for
sustainable agriculture, or saving rain forests or anything else either
until much later. All human constructs have flaws. But we learn from our
mistakes. There's no way you can say ancient agriculture was superior.
Could ancient agricultural practices have supported the 5 billion people we
have now? Even the practices of 75 years ago couldn't do that.
[Start of Rant]
>The IMAGINARY personages more powerful than us were in fact SOCIETY.
>God is other people, Mary. Our culture of individualism is hooked
>on POWER, frightened of powerlessness and dismisses GOD in OTHERS.
>This is the ME...ME...ME...ME...civilisation. Machine culture- whose demise
>is
>imminent, Mary, has been built non-renewable resources. We have plundered
>the planet. We have robbed our children of their inheritance to pay for our
>need
>for power TODAY. Bigger faster cars, powerfull engines, and processors.
[End of Rant]
I can't take you seriously when you are YELLING at me. Please stop it.
>POWER again Mary. Ever hear the expression FIGHT THE POWER!??
I've heard a lot of expressions, but not that one in particular.
>Who do you empathise with in the old Star Trek? Is it Spock- the
emotionless
>logician the symbol of the inflexible male partiarchy that is destroying us
>all.
My favorite was Bones. He liked to rant too you know.
>(Amazing how many 'liberated' women have joined the partiarchal rat race!)
You sure do make a lot of assumptions, Fintan. You don't know me
personally, after all.
>Or do you empathise with James T. Kirk the Christ figure who is always the
>one who has to mediate between the Emotions of Scotty and the Logic of
>Spock. In whose hands would you rather you fate lay? Scotty, Spock or Kirk?
Funny, I never thought of Kirk as a Christ figure, I just used to have a
crush on him. Now you're telling me I had a crush on Christ.
[Rant number 2]
>Oh yes it is indeed in opposition to logic. Just look at the flack I got
>here for propounding MoM: a mystic transcendance of the MOQ. But, Mary,
>Mysticism is the HIGHER level. Logic is fit only for computers- is only
>artificial intelligence. It is the realm of Objectivity.
>
>Where everything isObjectified.
>
>Object-oriented programming. Women as Sex OBJECT. Lila treats women
>as an object because Pirsig never escaped subject- OBJECT thinking himself.
>So-called liberation has ended in the straightjacketing of women into ever
>more confining roles defined by SUPERmodels. Roles so confining that women
>must insert silicone in their breasts to match up with the cultures'
>requirments.
>For Western men are still babies; consumer culture feeds us all from a huge
>milky SUPERmarket breast of engorging over-consumption. SUPER-EGO
>The Bonfire of the Vanities. That's Western Culture in a nutshell.
>
>The definition of reality from the dictionary, is that reality is
OBJECTIVE!
>
>>I'm opposed to defining Dynamic Quality as God because I think DQ is much
>>more than mysticism.
>
>DQ is GOD. Mysicism is the Science of Godhood.
>
>DQ comes from GOD as DQ-CREATION and hits the plane of earth/water where
>it becomes SQ(past) and then it reflects back to up GOD as dQ-creativity
>(future).
>
>DQ=Divine Creative Artistic Madness. Right side of the brain = DQ-Quality.
>The left side is Static, Mathematic.
[End Rant number 2]
BTW, Fintan, I'm tired of hearing about engorged breasts and masturbation.
Save it ok?
>The GRAPHIC attached shows this DQ-SQ relationship.
It gives me a headache. Just say it in words.
>love
I love you too. You rant better than anyone.
Mary
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