Re: MD the zombie within

From: Lithien (Lithien@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun Dec 13 1998 - 14:00:10 GMT


another condescenging prig's profound observations regarding the zombie articles:

jonathan:

1. It's a pity that the fragrance today smells like the fragrance of air freshener". I could use a breath of REAL fresh air.

2. I don't want to get bogged down in discussing the workings of DQ in the
Zombie, but I do have some comments on the workings of logic.

lithien:

of course you do, its the only thing you know how to discuss.

3. Diana's "Zombie" articles were interesting and revealing, but lacked
something I greatly value i.e. simplicity.
 
lithien:

your definition of simplicity is not the same as mine. not that it matters much since that is not what we were discussing.

hello??????????????

is there anyone really thinking out there?

http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/Lila2.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan B. Marder <marder@agri.huji.ac.il>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: MD the zombie within

>Hi Lilacs,
> It's a pity that the fragrance today smells like the fragrance of
>"air freshener". I could use a breath of REAL fresh air.
>
>Diana's "Zombie" articles were interesting and revealing, but lacked
>something I greatly value i.e. simplicity.
>The "free won't" mentioned in one of the articles is about rejecting
>possibilities that already arose unconsciously.
>
>Way back in June, I wrote:-
>>DQ is about putting the possibilities on the agenda.
>>SQ is about evaluating the possibilities that have arisen.
>
>I don't want to get bogged down in discussing the workings of DQ in the
>Zombie, but I do have some comments on the workings of logic. Logic is
>about comparing and testing patterns for consistency.When inconsistency
>is found, a pattern can be declared false and rejected. But logic
>doesn't invent the patterns it tests and we don't really understand how
>the ideas first arise. New Scientist suddenly presents this as a
>remarkable new finding, but Platt and Mary already saw through it ...
>
>MARY:
>>You know there's a lot of truth to the old saying
>>that there's "nothing new under the sun".
>
>PLATT:
>>The "zombie within" sounds a lot like good old "automatism" ...
>
>I agree with them both.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>
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