Hi David,
>ROGER and other would-be organizers:
>I've operated discussion groups in the past and know from experience
>that keeping people on topic is the hardest part.
>We almost need a referee. Someone who is willing to be a jerk. Someone
>who knows the material well enough to stop the bullshitters and reign in
>those on a tangent.
(I can't resist this) ;)
I think I'm fully qualified to speak for the jerk contingent. Why just a
few days ago I gave 2 people a public dressing down! So, seriously, I want
to comment on this. I get aggravated as much as anybody over some of the
things I see coming across the list, but in amongst all the trash (I think
this was Diana's characterization, which no doubt applied to me as much as
anybody at the time) are some real gems. The MOQ is such a broad subject,
and even though we often stray completely off the topic of the month, that's
usually because someone has a legitimate question or has stumbled upon a new
insight. I don't want to quash anyone's insights just because their topic
hasn't come up yet! So, I think the solution we're using now is probably
the best - that is to use the subject header to identify content. Sometimes
even that's hard to remember to do! You'll notice, though, that I started a
new thread on list management with this post. It includes your entire
original one quoted, so anybody sorting by subjects would catch your
comments.
>And the KEY is picking a topic that is very speciific. For example, this
>month's topic could be just the last question; What is Pirsig describing
>when he talks about intellectual patterns?
Good luck with this one! Magnus recently sent me the zipped files
containing all the posts back to August, 1997. As I have time I've been
reading them. Do you want to guess what they were talking about back then?
The 4 levels!
>To also ask about mind and brains and how all three relate to society is
>just building a tower of blah blah blah. It's way too much at once.
>
>Remember the scene in zaamm when young chris is trying to write a letter
>home to his mom. He can't think of anything cause he's trying to think
>of everything. So dad tells him to pick one brick from one of the
>building in the town where they're stopped for lunch. FOCUS Focus focus.
>
>but that just what i think.
>
>
>david b.
Mary
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